1984 in 2018

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_Ceeboo
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canpakes wrote:
Ceeboo wrote:Hey CP!

While I am huge fan of Prager (I adore him and his radio show. I am also part way through his book on Exodus - Being Jewish, I find his perspective to be fascinating) I don't know that much about the videos. I have watched about a dozen of them (I think there are a couple of hundred videos and counting - with over a billion views) but it is my understanding that PragerU is a non-profit organization.

Anyway, I am almost always (very close to 100%) in favor of free speech but I understand that this (Google/YouTube/Free Speech) is very complex. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

You're correct that PragerU is registered as a non-profit. Of course, this does not mean that the folks that run things are not earning a wage*.

Yes, of course.

But the fact that demonetization is an issue speaks to

Every lawsuit ever filed? Unless they are suing Google/YouTube for 6 dozen doughnuts? :)
the fact that the organization sees a threat to continued collection an disbursement of monies designed to push a particular agenda.

How many organizations (providing a specific political view) can think of that are not interested in pushing their particular agenda? I can't think on a single one.

*Review their 2015 tax forms at the link: https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... 55cd-9.pdf

Thanks but I'm honestly not that interested to dig into their 2015 tax forms.

Look, I made a post to add some information about the topic of free speech. I'm not vested (or even interested) in defending PragerU. I understand and recognize that PragerU is openly and clearly a politically right organization. Clearly, in these parts, I don't expect PargerU to be received as the bee's knee's. No worries.
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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Kishkumen wrote:Crisis debunked.

They are shadow banning conservatives. A few weeks ago they admitted it. I see it EVERY DAY on Twitter. Every. Day. The pattern is unmistakable. Friends of mine, personal friends, reasonably well known bloggers, I won't see anything from them unless I visit their page directly. I see mention of something they tweeted in an article online. Huh, interesting I never saw that in my feed. They even block referred traffic from sources they don't like. They'll block a blog for instance, or a referring Twitter user. Then when you click on those links going to some referred tweet, they won't appear. You'll get "system is busy try again" messages repeatedly, hitting refresh over and over dozens of times, but then magically after removing the src tag from the URL their servers start working.

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Re: 1984 in 2018

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schreech wrote:Claiming the white christian male victim card got Trump elected




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Re: 1984 in 2018

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Water Dog wrote:
schreech wrote:WTF are you talking about? Facebook is not the internet. There is only ONE comcast therefore, monopoly!. There are, literally, thousands of social media companies that cater to every kind of freak and fetish. You are just not very good at logic are you?


Are you physically incapable of talking without insulting? What is wrong with you? Flashing your inferiority complex at me with invectives doesn't make you right. Did I say Facebook was the internet? No, I didn't. You keep talking about comprehension skills while repeatedly, over and over, failing to comprehend what I'm actually saying. Facebook is no more the internet than cell phone providers are the radio spectrum. Facebook is an independent communication network. It is a monopoly, with zero competitors, and has virtually 100% global market saturation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-antitr ... 1516121561

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/22/1738 ... p-question

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-u ... 2018-04-11


Dude, you really don't seem to able to actually follow what you are arguing, at all, so its not surprising that you don't understand the responses people are writing to you. You are correct, insulting you doesn't make me right, being capable of logically following and responding to an argument while being right makes me right. Mocking you is just fun.

First, You literally said:

"Your web hosting company isn't the internet. There are thousands of such companies. There is only one Facebook. Do you really not understand the concept of a monopoly?"

There is only one hosting company with the name of my hosting company. There are thousands of other companies that do the same thing. My company has rules and regulations clients and users have to follow.

There is only one social media network with the name Facebook. There are dozens of other companies that do the same thing. Facebook has rules and regulations that clients and users have to follow.

...do you even understand MONOPOLY!??! You don't even know what you are trying to say as you mash out responses here.

Nothing you linked to suggested that any of these companies don't have a right to remove content that violates their terms and conditions. If they get broken up because they found to be monopolies, that will not change, they will still have their own terms and conditions and, as private businesses in the free market, will be able to regulate that content however they want. NOTHING YOU HAVE LINKED TO INDICATES THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE OF FREE SPEECH HERE WHICH IS THE PREMISE OF YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIME YOU FORGET WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR TRY TO MOVE THE GOAL POSTS.

Jesus, stay focused. A bunch of republicans fretting about how a private company might use its platform for its own use doesn't constitute any kind of infringement" on anyone's "free speech rights". That was your entire argument until you decided to move on to how Facebook might be a monopoly as if that ha anything to do with anyone's freedom of speech.

The govt is not limiting Alex Jone's ability to say whatever stupid crap he wants to say on whatever platform will allow him to. Facebook is not required to allow hate speech or anything else they find objectionable. Again, you are just wrong and the slippery slope fallacy is nonsense.
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Ceeboo wrote:
schreech wrote:Claiming the white christian male victim card got Trump elected




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I love dogs, thanks!
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Ceeboo wrote:
schreech wrote:Claiming the white christian male victim card got Trump elected

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This is not such an unbelievable point of view. Here's a simple opinion piece from a conservative author, from a while back. With a few keystrokes you can find many such articles that delve into this with more detail.

http://www.startribune.com/trump-plays- ... 399739291/
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schreech wrote:WTF are you talking about? NOTHING YOU HAVE LINKED TO INDICATES THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE OF FREE SPEECH HERE WHICH IS THE PREMISE OF YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIME YOU FORGET WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR TRY TO MOVE THE GOAL POSTS.

Jesus, stay focused.

He has to move the goalposts. He really doesn't believe in any of the crap he's repeating here.
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canpakes wrote:
schreech wrote:WTF are you talking about? NOTHING YOU HAVE LINKED TO INDICATES THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE OF FREE SPEECH HERE WHICH IS THE PREMISE OF YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIME YOU FORGET WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR TRY TO MOVE THE GOAL POSTS.

Jesus, stay focused.

He has to move the goalposts. He really doesn't believe in any of the crap he's repeating here.



Bingo. I got sucked in by the excitement of mockably stupid arguments. I should have bowed out sooner, the mocking and dismantling was completed many posts ago.
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Water Dog wrote:Your web hosting company isn't the internet. There are thousands of such companies. There is only one Facebook.


Facebook isn't the Internet either. It's a social network company. There is a big Internet outside of Facebook.
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"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
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