Trump owes Warren $1 million. Will he pay his debt?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

EA 101, folks. Make a 100% truthful statement Warren made about her ancestry, and he waltzes in, adds the little bit extra about her never claiming 'tribal affiliation', implying that's what you said, and then argues against the made up point that was never made in the first place.

This is his tactic, and can't stand it when he's busted so he goes into victim mode or just makes an accusation because why the “F” not?

- Doc

[_subgenius]

Dog, is Warren claiming to be Cherokee, specifically?

pay attention class, superior goal post mover has the stage.

[_Jersey Girl]

EA 101, folks. Make a 100% truthful statement Warren made about her ancestry, and he waltzes in, adds the little bit extra about her never claiming 'tribal affiliation', implying that's what you said, and then argues against the made up point that was never made in the first place.

This is his tactic, and can't stand it when he's busted so he goes into victim mode or just makes an accusation because why the “F” not?

- Doc

Are you raging and swearing again?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

EA 101, folks. Make a 100% truthful statement Warren made about her ancestry, and he waltzes in, adds the little bit extra about her never claiming 'tribal affiliation', implying that's what you said, and then argues against the made up point that was never made in the first place.

This is his tactic, and can't stand it when he's busted so he goes into victim mode or just makes an accusation because why the “F” not?

- Doc

Are you raging and swearing again?

It's my art.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Are you raging and swearing again?

It's my art.

- Doc

Oh see, and I noticed that about you. My specialty is building on my "sordid past" as a reputational construct.

How'm I doing?

Given the frequency with which you use the F word (and it's variations) in your posts--average one time in the occasional post--and how that translates into "rage and swearing" at EA, I'm pretty sure Jersey-ites are all homicidal maniacs.

But “F” those people.

[_EAllusion]

EAllusion 101, folks. Make a 100% truthful statement Warren made about her ancestry, and he waltzes in, adds the little bit extra about her never claiming 'tribal affiliation', implying that's what you said, and then argues against the made up point that was never made in the first place.

I didn't imply that's what you said. Here's the conversation:

Water Dog quoting Chuck Hoskin:

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

Water Dog describes this as, "Reked."

Canpakes, responding to this quote:

Dog, is Warren claiming to be Cherokee, specifically?

You responding to Canpakes:

Well, yeah. Where you been at for the last three pages?

But, it doesn't matter. She's African. Or Irish. Or whatever. ____ it. Since I'm 3% Norwegian I'm just going to lay claim to being Pacific Islander because I'm transracial. Or not. Race doesn't exist, obviously. Or it does. Who knows? It's so complicated, really. Why are we even talking about this? ____ evil Republicans made fun of her for claiming to be Cherokee, or whatever. Racists.

#warren2020

Then I reply,

She's not claiming to be a member of the Cherokee tribe. She explicitly disavows that. Yet the response statement acts as though Warren is claiming the DNA test determines tribal citizenship. It's right there in the first sentence.

Rekt, though.

I'm clearly responding to the salient claim in Water Dog's quote that Warren is illicitly claiming tribal affiliation even though she isn't. You pointing out that Warren has claimed Cherokee ancestry just misses the point, so I responded to your quote by focusing on the argument Canpakes wrote his question to.

This is his tactic, and can't stand it when he's busted so he goes into victim mode or just makes an accusation because why the ____ not?

- Doc

Good job. It's not my fault you can't follow a simple conversation. I'd love to hear more about why believing race is a social construct precludes believing that racism exists.

[Guest]

Since tribal affiliation is not possible to prove with DNA, does it even matter? Native American DNA is quite provable. Warren does show positive for NA ancestry. That should be enough. She does have that ancestry. That's quite enough enough.

Not "quite enough" to claim oneself as being Indian a.k.a. as being of Native American.

Lol. Well, what more should I expect to hear from the guy who likes to pretend that some small part of his own ancestry qualifies him to discount the opinions of folks without the exact same privileged mix.

[_Quasimodo]

Since tribal affiliation is not possible to prove with DNA, does it even matter? Native American DNA is quite provable. Warren does show positive for NA ancestry. That should be enough. She does have that ancestry. That's quite enough enough.

Not "quite enough" to claim oneself as being Indian a.k.a. as being of Native American.

Silly. If you have Native American ancestry, you have Native American ancestry. What is unclear about that?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Notice EA can never admit he's wrong when he's wrong. It's bizarro world down here in the Paradise forum.

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Jersey Girl,

I think most people would be astonished at both the quantity and variations of '“F”' both Jerseyites and military types employ. Cussing and swearing are fine arts for our kind, but can easily be misinterpreted as hatespeech, especially by those who're missing balls.

Whatever the case may be, I find their fainting spells to be amusing and confusing at the same time.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Is this image offensive to anyone?