Joe Biden accused of sexual assault

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And Reade's allegation is looking stronger today.
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Well. Democrats are in a pickle, for sure. We had a privileged kid doing questionable stuff as a high schooler and college student. Possible sexual assault based on testimonies, no? Despite his life afterward, us Democrats decided he was to be sacrificed on the altar of hindsight and 2019‘ish mores.

I don’t see any way ahead, but orthopraxy must match orthodoxy, no? Biden has gotta go.

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From USAToday:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.
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I have the feeling if Tara Reade were accusing a GOPher of this, the Left's skepticism would be nonexistent.

Well. Not the entire Left:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/30/sara ... en-resign/

“But u called on ⁦@alfranken⁩ to resign w/out the ethics investigation HE asked for??” Silverman tweeted to her millions of followers, along with an article from CNN under the headline that read, “Kirsten Gillibrand on Tara Reade allegation: ‘I support Vice President Biden.'”

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Did you read the article? The evidence against her credibility is really stronger than I initially thought.
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Well, yeah. The irony of that article and the whole Kavanaugh affair really can’t be overstated enough.

Look.

Maybe Biden did it. Maybe he sniffs hair like a weirdo. Maybe he’s a walking Boomer-tier meme. Maybe he’s a furry. I dunno.

What I do know is after DJT the bar is so low for the Right to talk about morality that it’s a moot point now. The days of pretending to care about faithful heterosexual men who aren’t in the closet, who aren’t damned children, who aren’t assaulting women, or are damned hookers, or are doing blow, or whatever floats their church-going boats is over.

So, I don’t care about Reade because what I do care about takes precedence over Biden possibly fingerblasting someone 30 years ago or whatever. For whatever reason, the DNC is fronting this senile “F” and it is what it is. I just hope the best qualified person is selected as his VP in the event he pulls a Reagan. Here’s hoping the woman he chooses hasn’t raped anyone in college, screwed an intern, grabs men by the Johnson, has a drug problem, is looking at child porn, or whatever it is that our male leaders we elect seem to struggle with. I’d like our leadership to just be focused on governing responsibly.

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When you look at two candidates for a job position, and they are the only two available, any similarities the two have to cancel each other out, for the most part. However, one could have more of a particular trait than the other, so that should be taken into consideration.

Biden may have sexually assaulted a woman 30 years ago. This accusation has some credibility, given the corroboration.

Stacked up against the accusations against Trump, however, I have to say, it doesn't change my voting decision this November one iota. In the sexual assault arena, Trump is far worse.

This is the problem for the GOP. They've lowered the bar so low, any candidate looks awesome by comparison.
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The problem for partisans is that they basically set themselves up for this kind of thing. It's a sort of... cult-like devotion that undermines responsible governing. Cultists get caught up in the person, insane virtuosity, being blind to their own BS all the while targeting enemies with endless accusations of failing to living up to the cultists' standards. One of the things I enjoy about the threads on Midgley or Peterson's plagiarism is how it underscores their complete and utter devotion to their dogmatism while being completely and utterly devoid of introspection, personal responsibility, and awareness of their own behavior. Their behavior is replicated within the political sphere where we've seen it on full display with the GOP AND within the DNC regarding 'social justice'. While I make a personal allowance that one cult is bigger than the other, I recognize that my own biases 'diminuizes' the DNC's shenanigans while 'engrandizes' the GOP's behavior. That's hard to admit, because the GOP is so clearly insane, but if I'm being honest the DNC is just a centrist version of the GOP, in my opinion. There are endless examples of the DNC being in bed with corporate interests that work against the environment, the worker, so and so forth. I'll give you an example locally.

Here in SLC, much like everywhere else, we're experiencing a boom in apartment building to meet the demands for housing. We have a pretty 'progressive' culture in SLC proper, and as such elected our second female Mayor in a row. Cool. Woman power. Well, this woman Mayor, who is admittedly savvy, competent, intelligent, and connected isn't immune from low-key working the system to her advantage. Her and her husband (which she had an affair with {while travelling on the taxpayer dime - it was a big local scandal} before they got together, which now puts her in the moral camp of many-a-GOP'er) created a THREE-DEEP shell company to hide the fact that they were securing taxpayer monies for an apartment complex they're planning to build in SLC. The media won't cover it even though there is CLEAR evidence they're working the system, their connections, and their influence to secure property, loans, and changing zoning to do this thing. So that's that, right? NOPE. The 'community activist' who has extensively documented this, who has tried to get the Tribune to cover it, who has been trying to expose this corruption was, I kid you not, attacked by an unknown assailant just ONE WEEK after he posted his evidence on YouTube. The story goes on, but it suffices to say that corruption isn't limited to the GOP, nor is wonky behavior.

So. Back to Biden. We really have to be careful to avoid becoming 'Mormons' again when it comes to anything. Mormonism teaches you from a young age to go all in when you believe in something. It teaches you to turn a blind eye to your own moral failings, your own responsibilities, and to institutional wrongdoing because 'the bigger picture' is greater than you so, you know, shut the “F” up and fall in line. This is why, especially at the national level, we're always faced with the choice of picking the lesser of two evils. I'll vote for Biden because he's clearly the lesser of two evils. But let's not kid ourselves. There's some real BS behavior that's not being covered, and the media is, in fact, complicit.

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Democrats and their pundits annoy me regularly, but it's regular annoyance. It's people being people annoyance. It's little mischaracterizations, exaggerations, and exploitations for the most part.

The GOP, however, has sunken to full-blown, can't do anything else but full hypocrisy mode. They don't attempt to mislead credibly; they'd rather go with outrageous, obvious lies to see what their base will swallow. They tell the truth only on accident.

Recognizing that is not diminishing what Democrats do every day, nor is it a signal of bias. The objective reality is that the GOP is at least a 1000 times more full of crap than Democrats, and at least 1000 times worse at actual governance. It's bias to NOT recognize that.

In terms of cults, the GOP is Jim Jones/Charles Manson, and Democrats are Alcoholics Anonymous. They barely resemble each other.
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Speaking of cultitsts, it's easy to forget there's a whole alternative universe in which Blasey-Ford was revealed to be a deceptive political operative with an implausible story, even though that's crazy-pants wrong, and that's informing their comparison to Reade and understanding of how to handle the case or even what being consistent in handling it means. You see this play out again and again where desperate apologetics developed in the moment for some culture war issue ossify in to the story of what really happened for social conservatives, which then informs how they approach the next event and the next one after that and so on. It's a whole world they've built up.
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