Trump attempted assassination at Rally Today?! He was bleeding

[canpakes]

I'm speculating that perhaps this shooter was a rightist extremist who decided that even Trump was not extremist enough to suit him.

I don’t think so. That January 20, 2021 donation would strongly suggest otherwise.

I think that I saw something about a $15 donation made; from 3.5 years ago would have been when he was 16 or 17.

Is this what you’re referring to?

[Gadianton]

I am very uncomfortable posting at the moment

Unlike Binger, I think that you are incredibly sincere and mean everything you say. I think you are overreacting. But do take some time if you need to and come back to it.

How affected were you when Alex Jones repeatedly called the Sandy Hook shooting a false flag and ignored the myriad of attacks on the victims families?

[Gadianton]

I hope that this thread does not reflect the majority of Americans. If it does, we are all fu-ked!

It has far less chance of reflecting Americans than all of Truth Social and Rumble. Go read the comments at Rumble and come back here and seriously make a case that anyone here is getting extreme.

You completely IGNORE the endless direct calls for assassinations and calls for violence and revolution from your side, you just pretend it doesn't exist. Even if you don't act like they do, to your credit, you seem to go along with their messaging.

[Binger]

I hope we can pull back, but it feels like the rhetoric and discussion has crossed the rubicon, and I will point to January 6th as when it went from rhetoric to much more.

And you would be wrong, but if this helps your feelings, have a great feel.

[Dwight]

I forgot to say Trump himself never condemned the attack against Paul Pelosi and in fact it became a thing he made light hearted jokes at his rallies. So if you feel troubled about the political violence maybe don’t vote for a guy who can’t condemn it.

[Kishkumen]

I think that I saw something about a $15 donation made; from 3.5 years ago would have been when he was 16 or 17.

Is this what you’re referring to?

Yes. Given the sparse evidence we have, I think this contradicts the notion that he was a radical right-wing extremist.

[Kishkumen]

I hope we can pull back, but it feels like the rhetoric and discussion has crossed the rubicon, and I will point to January 6th as when it went from rhetoric to much more.

And you would be wrong, but if this helps your feelings, have a great feel.

Yeah, it is difficult to assign tipping points. And we have a lot of contributing events that lean into irreparable partisan division and violence. This one will be added to the list.

[canpakes]

I think that I saw something about a $15 donation made; from 3.5 years ago would have been when he was 16 or 17.

Is this what you’re referring to?

Yes. Given the sparse evidence we have, I think this contradicts the notion that he was a radical right-wing extremist.

Maybe, maybe not. I have grown adult relatives who only needed a year or so after Trump’s famous escalator ride to start talking about how he was sent by God.

Three-and-a-half years in the current political climate is more than enough time to push a susceptible mind to extremes.

[Kishkumen]

When I woke up this morning, I felt like I was swimming in an ocean of total darkness, and no matter where I looked, I couldn't find a source of light. I am very uncomfortable posting at the moment - I am dizzy and can't seem to gather my focus/balance.

Having said that, I will post this while being in total darkness and being personally stunned: As I read this thread, I am very discouraged and saddened. I hope that this thread does not reflect the majority of Americans. If it does, we are all screwed!

I am sorry the world is so dark for you today, ceeboo. And, I am sorry to have contributed to your darkness. I feel great apprehension myself. I think it is an awful event. I wish I were more surprised about it. It is more the kind of thing I felt we were lucky to have dodged every day it didn’t happen. Now that mutual distrust, mutual hatred, violent rhetoric, and violence have been normalized for too many people, it was only a matter of time. And I doubt this is the end. Will there be more attempts on Trump? Attempts on Biden? I dearly hope not.

What do we do to get out of this mess? I don’t know. It doesn’t look like anyone has the will or influence to correct it. If it is any consolation, I still care about you and believe in you, ceebs. I hope we can overlook our other differences.

[Kishkumen]

Maybe, maybe not. I have grown adult relatives who only needed a year or so after Trump’s famous escalator ride to start talking about how he was sent by God.

Three-and-a-half years in the current political climate is more than enough time to push a susceptible mind to extremes.

One thing that is true: we have too little evidence to conclude one way or the other. I don’t think extremists on either side are immune to giving birth to an assassin. Our culture is obviously not immune to giving birth to troubled minds that can get their hands on deadly weapons very easily. We all live with this threat hanging over us every day. If anything, assigning blame to one “side” is exactly the wrong approach, but one we are almost surely doomed to play out.