Trump and Harvard

[Moksha]

Harvard is being attacked by a bogus accusation of anti-Jewishness by a man with an unmatched record of scoundrelry and dishonesty. By a man who keeps a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedside table. "Fine people on both sides."

[Gunnar]

It is just a front. Do you know what "from the River to the sea" in regard to the conflict and anti Israel protesters. It is a call for the eradication of Israel. Many faculty members that are founding members of the Harvard Faculty and Staff, signed a open letter to the past president of Harvard when she spoke out against that phrase, clearly knowing what it implies. The eradication of Israel is certainly an antisemitic mindset. With a little bit of home work you can find the staff members names, and the names on that open letter. If you can't figure it out, I can certainly provide you with those links.

Allowing protestors to carry signs, or chanting such things, whether allowed by free speech of not, is anti semantic rhetoric, and pure hate towards the nation of Israel.

What does it matter, or not, that Garber is a Jew or not? Do you want to discuss the Jews that worked with and collaborated with the Nazi's during ww2? From what little I know or have read about Garber, he supports the eradication of the state of Israel...i.e. from the River to the Sea, which is just that , from the river to the sea and not just the west bank and Gaza.

Hamas terrorist use the slogan as the eradication of the state Israel, which there is no denial of, and Harvard, and the group in question supports the use of that hate filled slogan on campus, how is that not anti semantic?

Almost everything you said in that reply is basically just more of the "backfire effect" nonsense that you are so prone to rely on. Believe or not, it is entirely possible to criticize the Israeli government for unjust and bad policies and actions without being antisemitic. It is not antisemitic to justly point out and criticize Israel for committing genocide, war crimes and other violations of basic human rights.

[Chap]

What does it matter, or not, that Garber is a Jew or not? Do you want to discuss the Jews that worked with and collaborated with the Nazi's during ww2?

For various reasons, I am well acquainted with quite a number of Jews, both Israelis and non-Israelis, who are strongly opposed to the actions of the Netanyahu government in Gaza, and regard Netanyahu himself as a criminal who is prolonging the war to stay out of jail.

I'll let them know that they are in fact basically Nazi collaborators. Several of them, given their family history, may be a little surprised by this news, but no doubt they will adapt in time.

[Markk]

What does it matter, or not, that Garber is a Jew or not? Do you want to discuss the Jews that worked with and collaborated with the Nazi's during ww2?

For various reasons, I am well acquainted with quite a number of Jews, both Israelis and non-Israelis, who are strongly opposed to the actions of the Netanyahu government in Gaza, and regard Netanyahu himself as a criminal who is prolonging the war to stay out of jail.

I'll let them know that they are in fact basically Nazi collaborators. Several of them, given their family history, may be a little surprised by this news, but no doubt they will adapt in time.

Chad, Gunnar, Cakes

That is just dumb. Gunnar was implying that a Jew can not be "antisemitic" just because they are a jew. History has proven that to be false. If your friend or aquatintists are for the eradication of Israel as a whole, then they are antisemitic against Israel as a whole. Context is everything.

Harvard has and does support the eradication of Israel as a nation, whether directly, or indirectly does not matter. Many Faculty members who belong to the group is question, "demonstrated" via a signed open letter to the previous president of Harvard, who was to her credit trying to stop the hate speech against Israel, their opposition to the presidents position.

Are you folks opposed to the state of Israel existing? Are you opposed to the phrase, terrorist rallying call, and meaning behind " from the river to the free,....why? Many members of the "Harvard Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine" agree with the hate speech allowed on the campus, in signature.



https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/From- ... to-the-Sea

[Kishkumen]

Those were homophonic comments.

Looks like homophonophobia is alive and well on DM.

[Moksha]

Those were homophonic comments.

Looks like homophonophobia is alive and well on DM.

I doubt the usual suspects will actively support it unless it benefits the Orange Guy or is found not to be Regressive.

[canpakes]

Harvard has and does support the eradication of Israel as a nation, whether directly, or indirectly does not matter.

Markk, you can keep furiously digging your hole deeper and trying to claim that dumb propaganda is your truth, but at the end of the day, you’ll have been punk’d by your orange hero and now seem stuck tying to defend stupid stuff made up to trick weak minds into displays of faux rage.

Are you not able to answer the two questions that I asked earlier?

(1) Point out the ‘antisemitism’ that is displayed on the Harvardfsjp page, and -
(2) Show how Harvard, as an institution on the whole, is promoting antisemitism.

[Molok]

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/From- ... to-the-Sea

The very first thing you see on this link in bold letters is "WHEN it's antisemitic" even the AJC, an unapologetic shill for the nation of Israel won't bring themselves to say it's only used in an antisemitic way. Do you actually read the nonsense you post? (this is rhetorical, we all know the answer is 'no')

[canpakes]

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/From- ... to-the-Sea

The very first thing you see on this link in bold letters is "WHEN it's antisemitic" even the AJC, an unapologetic shill for the nation of Israel won't bring themselves to say it's only used in an antisemitic way. Do you actually read the nonsense you post? (this is rhetorical, we all know the answer is 'no')

The page also notes the following:

“The call for the establishment of a Palestinian State in addition to the State of Israel or advocacy for Palestinian rights is not antisemitic, and not all who use the phrase “From the River to the Sea” use it with harmful intent. Some assert that their call for Palestine to be free “from the river to the sea” does not require the eradication of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state, but simply that all people of Palestinian heritage, wherever they reside, have their rights, culture, and freedoms honored.”

[Chap]

For various reasons, I am well acquainted with quite a number of Jews, both Israelis and non-Israelis, who are strongly opposed to the actions of the Netanyahu government in Gaza, and regard Netanyahu himself as a criminal who is prolonging the war to stay out of jail.

I'll let them know that they are in fact basically Nazi collaborators. Several of them, given their family history, may be a little surprised by this news, but no doubt they will adapt in time.

Chad, Gunnar, Cakes

That is just dumb. Gunnar was implying that a Jew can not be "antisemitic" just because they are a jew. History has proven that to be false. If your friend or aquatintists are for the eradication of Israel as a whole, then they are antisemitic against Israel as a whole. Context is everything.
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Take it from me, who has known a lot of Jews for a long, long, time. Though the centuries, Jews have referred to people who hate Jews as an ethno-cultural-religious group as 'anti-semites', or equivalent words in other languages.

Where does that term come from? Well, Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. Shem was seen as the ancestor of most of the people of the ancient middle East, including Jews. Hence someone who hated Jews was called an anti-S(h)emite. This term is not ancient, but it certainly goes back to well before anybody even imagined anything like the modern state of Israel.

Over the last couple of hundred years, faced with the anti-semitism they encountered in some Christian countries, some Jews began to dream of a modern state where Jews would no longer be outsiders, and the idea grew up of establishing it in what was then called Palestine. Because 'Zion' was an ancient name for Jerusalem, such Jews were called 'Zionists'.

Some Jews thought it would in the long run be better for Jews to continuing fighing for rights in the countries where they were then living, and in some cases such people even thought it would be a positively bad idea to try to establish a modern state for Jews. Such Jews were called 'anti-Zionists'.

Nobody, but nobody called them anti-semites, because everybody realised that it would be dumb (Markk's favourite word) to call a victim of anti-semitism an anti-semite because they did not think it was a good idea to establish a modern state for Jews. There was already a perfectly good word for such people: anti-Zionists.

Netanyahu's government is nowadays pushing the stupid position that anybody who opposes the current policy of that government in relation to Gaza is an anti-semite. That would necessarily a large proportion of Jewish citizens of the state of Israel, as well as many Jews in countries round the world, including those Jews who to want Israel to continue to exist as a state, but just dislike its present government. And historically illiterate people are swallowing this line at one dumb gulp.