The coronavirus spread updated in real time

[_EAllusion]

It's still unclear how much seasonality there is to the virus and what's particularly scary is the possibility of another more serious wave in the fall/winter in a more open environment. Doubly so if Trump somehow loses the election and Republicans go into pure nihilistic obstruction mode.

[_EAllusion]

Trump announced that all orders preventing Church attendance are to be ended effective immediately and that he'll "override" governors if it is not done so. This is nonsense as he doesn't have that authority, but I guess it lets him get to test the boundaries of dictatorial threats and playact strong for a religious conservative base. 

While there's still a lot of uncertainty about how COVID spreads, one of the things that is reasonably clear is that Churches are high-risk settings for spreading the disease, for what is worth. 

[_Res Ipsa]

I wonder what the US Supreme Court, which is holding arguments over Zoom, would have to say about that? Off the top of my head, the controlling opinion on this was written by one of the leading conservatives on the court when it was issued and would reject a first amendment challenge as long as the restrictions were generally applicable and not targeted at religion.

[_EAllusion]

Trump is also asserting that there will be no second "closing" if a second wave of coronavirus hits, which is not a thing he gets to decide, but augurs some future ugliness.

[_Res Ipsa]

I fear it will get ugly anyway. With hindsight being 20-20, I think it was a bad idea to have a uniform mitigation plan for the whole country at once. I think lots of Americans have the impression that the virus has peaked throughout the country. But that’s not how it works. Arizona has certainly not peaked. Neither has Texas. It may have been better to have the CDC develop guidelines for when to implement mitigation and leave implementation purely to the states. Some states may have been able to effectively contain the virus for a longer period, keeping their economies running. By encouraging all states to loosen mitigation measures at the same time, the effect will be increases in cases at the same time everywhere. So, once again, we’ll all be fighting over the same scarce resources for use at the same time. Staggering any peaks that are coming would help because we could shuffle equipment, supplies, and personnel around the country.

[_Jersey Girl]

Trump announced that all orders preventing Church attendance are to be ended effective immediately and that he'll "override" governors if it is not done so. This is nonsense as he doesn't have that authority, but I guess it lets him get to test the boundaries of dictatorial threats and playact strong for a religious conservative base. 

While there's still a lot of uncertainty about how COVID spreads, one of the things that is reasonably clear is that Churches are high-risk settings for spreading the disease, for what is worth. 

Um, he didn't issue the orders to begin with, did he? That said, the churches are going to do whatever the churches see fit.

The problem is, I think, that he might threaten to withhold federal funding to states that don't bow down as he recently did for Michigan and I believe Nevada was the other over absentee ballots while Michigan was under literal water. Which proves he's slap out of his authoritarian mind and folks should be paying attention to that crap.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Past flu season deaths can be reached here:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

As we approach 100k COVID-19 deaths looking over the data from previous years really puts this thing into perspective. I wonder if the cdc will add covid-19 in with flu deaths for the 2019-2020 season, or if it’ll break it out into a separate category. Correct me if I’m wrong, but typically flu and pneumonia are reported as one figure, no?

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Past flu season deaths can be reached here:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

As we approach 100k COVID-19 deaths looking over the data from previous years really puts this thing into perspective. I wonder if the cdc will add covid-19 in with flu deaths for the 2019-2020 season, or if it’ll break it out into a separate category. Correct me if I’m wrong, but typically flu and pneumonia are reported as one figure, no?

- Doc

Because I READ your question, I went to the US Department of Health and Human Services website and READ that flu is combined with pneumonia because people don't die from the flu. They die from pneumonia and often are never tested for flu so they aren't diagnosed with influenza. And I READ on the CDC website that flu isn't a reportable illness which doesn't make sense to me, but that's what I READ. If that doesn't make sense to you, I'm happy to go READ it again and correct my statements.

cf: Ajax18

;-)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/ozark ... index.html

tl;dc (too lazy;didn’t click) - Packed pools, restaurants, and bars. No masks. Heartland. Will the heat be an effective COVID-19 barrier? Let’s hope so.

Also. WATCH OZARK ON NETFLIX. HOLY HELL.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/ozark ... index.html

tl;dc (too lazy;didn’t click) - Packed pools, restaurants, and bars. No masks. Heartland. Will the heat be an effective COVID-19 barrier? Let’s hope so.

Also. WATCH OZARK ON NETFLIX. HOLY HELL.

- Doc

I JUST frickin' saw that! I'm going to keep an eye on the counties involved: Benton, Camden, Miller, Morgan and see if they spike with new cases in the next 2 weeks or so.

I can't NOT believe how stupid people are. I wonder how many of those folks will end up dead or feel like they died in a couple or three weeks?