Biden's Economy?

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Gadianton wrote:
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In the meantime after all this successful Trump derangement diversion by the media, the deficit continues, the partisan IRS has been unleashed upon middle class America, the stock market is tanking, Russia is destroying Ukraine and costing the taxpayer trillions, the dollar is taking a beating due to student loan vote buying and other reverse Robinhood liberal policies, and ordinary Americans can't afford gasoline, air conditioning, or to even water their lawn. I'd be happy to see someone other than Trump in office if it would make independents rational again. Perhaps we still have a chance at turning this crazy hard left democratic socialist economy around. But I doubt independents would listen to De Santis either. At least he could save his own state from the scamdemic.
There is some good news, Ajax, you can vote for Beto and fix a few things at the local level down there in Texas.

Take Mississippi as a warning. I mean, seriously think about it Ajax, how do you think De Santis is going to send the stock market soaring, lower energy costs, raise the value of the dollar, and lower taxes for the average American?

What's his plan for all of that, Ajax? So far, like the governor of Mississippi, has De Santis done anything other than pull publicity stunts to fire up his base? Please show me the De Sasntis plan for lowering air conditioning costs. Or how about water? What's his take on the drought? All the DeSantis donation pleas I've read just talk about the woke mob.

Let's here what you've got from DeSantis, the economist.
While blue states were locked down far longer than they ever should have been, Florida was working and producing in spite of accusations of murder coming from the left. People continue to move to Florida attracted by freedom, low state taxes, and De Santis is likely to win this gubernatorial election with much greater margin than last time.
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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Moksha wrote:
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Woohoo, gas is only $3.50/gallon instead of $5/gallon.
That's about what it was before panic-induced price gouging.
Maybe in California but not here. It's amazing you continue to blame oil companies when it's obvious that Democrat control and their radical, useless campaign to ban fossil fuels has scared away for decades.
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:16 pm
… it's obvious that Democrat control and their radical, useless campaign to ban fossil fuels has scared away for decades.
Hawkeye/ajax, better fiction writing can be achieved by not leaving the critical words out of sentences.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
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With today's 2.4% drop, when adjusted for inflation, gas is currently trading at the 2018 high (5/18/18). Hopefully that is going to trickle down to the pumps sooner rather than later and give everyone a bit of relief.
Woohoo, gas is only $3.50/gallon instead of $5/gallon. Hail Joe Biden and the Democrats. Let's vote for them says the inner city uber drivers.

What do you think gas prices will be come November 2022, especially if Democrats retain control of the senate and continue to "transition" away from fossil fuels?
You're so pissed off Gas never peaked above that $5 mark, well below half what Republicans said would happen. Drives you absolutely nuts doesn't it? So what are you going to bitch about next now that the high gas stuff was short lived?

I got gas for $3.16 yesterday, it will likely be going down more which will induce more outrage by you, because you never really cared about Americans suffering at the pump, you only cared about manipulating the situation to suit your sick political agendas.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:13 pm
While blue states were locked down far longer than they ever should have been, Florida was working and producing in spite of accusations of murder coming from the left. People continue to move to Florida attracted by freedom, low state taxes, and De Santis is likely to win this gubernatorial election with much greater margin than last time.

Again, like gas prices, you don't really care about the economies of any states. You're just manipulating certain numbers while ignoring the more important ones, like the rate of death. The rate of COVID death in Florida was 50% higher (3,700 per million) than what it was in California (2,400 per million). Even in New York, where population concentration is higher, the rate of death is lower than Florida. Most people think saving thousands of lives is more important than worrying about how long a hotel stays open without mask mandates.

The top seven states with the highest rate of death are all Red States. But yeah, those restaurants didn't have to deal with masks huh? Too bad they have fewer customers now thanks to their stupidity. Hard to buy food when you're dead.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:19 pm
With today's 2.4% drop, when adjusted for inflation, gas is currently trading at the 2018 high (5/18/18). Hopefully that is going to trickle down to the pumps sooner rather than later and give everyone a bit of relief.
Woohoo, gas is only $3.50/gallon instead of $5/gallon. Hail Joe Biden and the Democrats. Let's vote for them says the inner city uber drivers.
I don't know why we need to hail Biden and Democrats, anymore than we need to put them on pikes when the price goes up. Was it Trump's fault when gas in 2018 was even more than it is right now?
What do you think gas prices will be come November 2022, especially if Democrats retain control of the senate and continue to "transition" away from fossil fuels?
I don't know. There are a million things that could happen globally between now and November that could influence markets. I don't think that Democrats could do much of anything though that would have any meaningful impact on gasoline prices between now and then.

If and/or when significant transition away from fossil fuels begins to occur, I imagine it would cause prices on gasoline to go down, as demand was reduced. Overall though, without significant investment in our energy infrastructure, and expanded renewable energy sources feeding into the grid, we're unlikely to see too much change. And those things will take years to build/implement. They will also require a national commitment, rather than a political one, as the moment the parties shift, if one isn't committed to ensuring our long term national security in favor of short term financial and political gains, we'll be back to square one.
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If and/or when significant transition away from fossil fuels begins to occur, I imagine it would cause prices on gasoline to go down
Really? Then why haven't gasoline prices gone down over the past two years under Biden and a Democratic congress?
They will also require a national commitment, rather than a political one.
I think it would require a global commitment. Until you get that, the economic damage caused in the name of climate change will be in vain.
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The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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And those things will take years to build/implement.
How many years? Do you even know how much it will actually help the environment? Yet you're willing to enact policies that create the kind of inflation, gas prices, and economy Biden has created over the past two years for something that you don't even know when or if will solve the problem?
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:46 pm
If and/or when significant transition away from fossil fuels begins to occur, I imagine it would cause prices on gasoline to go down
Really? Then why haven't gasoline prices gone down over the past two years under Biden and a Democratic congress?
What exactly has Biden, or the Democratic congress done in your eyes that has reduced demand? What significant transition away from fossil fuels has occurred?

I'm not aware of any.
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:50 pm
And those things will take years to build/implement.
How many years? Do you even know how much it will actually help the environment? Yet you're willing to enact policies that create the kind of inflation, gas prices, and economy Biden has created over the past two years for something that you don't even know when or if will solve the problem?
I don't know how many years, and it isn't just about the environment. It's about national security.

I most certainly am in favor of enacting policies that will reduce fossil fuel consumption, thus reducing our reliance on foreign oil, and keeping our in-ground domestic oil where it is as an untapped security resource for future generations, emergencies, or wars. Not taking action to ensure our national security because we can't put a finger on the exact moments it will "solve the problem" is one of the most short-sighted selfish thing I've seen. I don't know if it will solve the problem? How on earth could it not solve the problem of gradually chipping away at our national security in exchange for short term political power, some high-fives, and some extra money? Previous generations reduced the amount of fabric in their clothes to help our country for crap's sake, and we can't get people to want things implemented that will make us use less of one of our most valuable security assets.

Out of curiosity, what exact policies did Biden enact that directly caused increased gas prices the extent that they did?
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:13 pm
While blue states were locked down far longer than they ever should have been, Florida was working and producing in spite of accusations of murder coming from the left. People continue to move to Florida attracted by freedom, low state taxes, and De Santis is likely to win this gubernatorial election with much greater margin than last time.
Being a welfare state, and taking net federal handouts that are almost 200 times more than California takes per citizen probably helps a little.

I imagine low taxes can be easy to budget when you are a giant welfare queen and making everyone else pay for you.
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