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Leykis 101
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:02 am
by _GoodK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Leykis
Mod Note: I screwed up your post GoodK and I totally apologize. Hit edit rather than quote. Where did you get that long quote material from?~Bond
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:17 am
by _Bond...James Bond
Alright I think this guy is oversimplifying all men, painting them as horny horndogs. Guess what...some guys don't only have one thing on their mind. Seriously. To paint a large body of men with the same brush is just as fallicious as painting all women as an homogenous group.
3 Dates Rule - Stop seeing the girl if you do not get laid after the third date
Leykis asserts, as a matter of convenience to his students, that if a woman doesn't have sex with them by their third date, it means she has no intention of ever doing so.
Um.....yeah. What if the guy doesn't want to have sex after 3 dates?
Dispose of the used condom by flushing it down the toilet. Since this is not always possible, men are encouraged to carry some hot sauce to pour inside the used condom. According to Tom Leykis, there are several cases where women have attempted to impregnate themselves with the contents of used condoms, in an effort to extract child support payments from the man. Leykis advises men who use the 'hot sauce method' to "get out as soon as they hear a scream", probably indicating that the woman has tried 'injecting' the contents of the condom into herself. Leykis says, "if you're the risky type, stick around and sue her for attempted extortion."
Paranoid much?
Never compliment a women.
It gives them a sense of power. You want to be in control. You don't want to let them think they can manipulate you. It raises her self-esteem and will probably lessen your chance of getting laid.
Oh yeah. Keep the woman feeling like crap and she'll put out. That's nice.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:37 am
by _Dr. Shades
Bond...James Bond wrote:Um.....yeah. What if the guy doesn't want to have sex after 3 dates?
Then he's gay.
Paranoid much?
When it comes to child support for 18 years, is there any reason
not to be paranoid?
Oh yeah. Keep the woman feeling like s*** and she'll put out.
Well, if there's one thing that women have zero interest in sexually, it's a "nice guy."
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:14 pm
by _Moniker
Arrggh! I am interested in nice guys! When a man compliments me I like it! When he doesn't I take it that he's not interested and move on. Seriously. If a man is giving me mixed signals or acts like he's playing games with me I do NOT appreciate it at all and will get the hell away from him. He needs to be sincere and not wishy washy.
I can pretty much immediately tell if a man is doing a power control thing with me. Don't screw with me that way.
The ONLY men that have ever had the pleasure of my company pulled out all the stops, were not shy about making it known they were interested in me, made it known they were interested in me and only me -- and I did the same for them if I was interested.
I do not appreciate men that do these lil mind games and get the hell away from them as fast as humanly possible.
The only screwed up relationship I've ever had was with my ex-husband and he played the power game -- it make me cynical, jaded, and upset. It totally sapped my self esteem and the only reason I stayed was 'cause I was married. I won't marry again so that if I ever stumble across another man that is such a jack ass to do this stuff I can leave with no regrets.
I like men that are nice! I mean -- they may be bad boys in the sense that they're rebellious a bit, or outside the norm slightly, or a bit wicked in the bedroom, etc... yet, they are good guys to me! I don't want a frat boy, a boisterous over bearing jock. I like men that think, can be quiet and contemplative, that are honest, that aren't afraid to be emotional -- do you know the most marvelous thing about some relationships? Looking into your partners eyes and truthfully telling them precisely how you feel, think, etc... and they do the same? Honesty, is at times, the most powerful aphrodisiac.
I can tell if someone is b.s.ing me. I have no interest. Only play games with a woman that plays games. Otherwise a woman that doesn't play games will get over you and skedaddle away.
~edited out tooo much information~
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:28 pm
by _Jersey Girl
Why anyone would give more than minimal thought to what appears to be a bottom of the barrel thinker, I have no clue.
Consider this reposted by Bond regarding complimenting women:
"It gives them a sense of power. You want to be in control. You don't want to let them think they can manipulate you. It raises her self-esteem and will probably lessen your chance of getting laid."
I see, so the guy devotes his broadcasts to teaching men how to manipulate women to give men a sense of power.
Uh huh.
Don't tell me you take this guy seriously, GoodK, or I'd have to assume that you're as base in your thinking what he is putting out.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:33 pm
by _Mercury
Leykis appeals to the basement dwelling, sexually inexperienced white trash mentality of misogynistic frat boys.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:26 pm
by _GoodK
Some basic tenets of
Leykis 101:
$40.00 Limit - Never spend then $40 no a date.
Leykis 101 students are cautioned against spending more than $40 on a date. The reasoning behind this is Leykis' opinion that more money spent during a date will not necessarily lead to a better chance of sex, contrary to the belief of most 'uninformed' men.
3 Dates Rule - Stop seeing the girl if you do not get laid after the third date
Leykis asserts, as a matter of convenience to his students, that if a woman doesn't have sex with them by their third date, it means she has no intention of ever doing so.
Single Mothers - Never date single mothers.
Why? You already know their stance on abortion: they won't have one. Don't risk paying vaginamony or child support.
Tabasco Sauce - After having sex pour Tabasco sauce into the used condom
Dispose of the used condom by flushing it down the toilet. Since this is not always possible, men are encouraged to carry some hot sauce to pour inside the used condom. According to Tom Leykis, there are several cases where women have attempted to impregnate themselves with the contents of used condoms, in an effort to extract child support payments from the man. Leykis advises men who use the 'hot sauce method' to "get out as soon as they hear a scream", probably indicating that the woman has tried 'injecting' the contents of the condom into herself. Leykis says, "if you're the risky type, stick around and sue her for attempted extortion."
Co-worker Relationships - Never date a co-worker.
In fact, you should not engage in any conversation with a woman at work unless it directly relates to work.
Relationships - Do not get into a serious relationship before the age of 25
If you're under 25, you should not have a girlfriend. Do not move in with your girlfriend. You should be having fun and sleeping with as many people as possible. Some men do mature at different rates. If you're ready for marriage or kids, go for it. Just remember that over 50% of marriages fail. You had better be damn sure of it, or you will be paying for it the rest of your life. Marriages where both parties are older than 25 have a much, much higher success rate.
Eating Before a Date
The idea goes back to our Spending Limits rule. Eat a hearty meal before you go out on a date with her. That way, when you take her out to dinner, just order a green salad, and save money. No woman wants to eat more than you or else she'll look like a pig.
No Sex at Your House
Never bring a woman back to your place.
Do you really want her to know where you live after you've dumped her and moved on to the next one? Do you want her dropping over uninvited on weekend and nights to "see if you're around?" No!
Have sex at her house or a hotel.
Sex to Go
No spooning. No cuddling. No staying over. In and Out. This might be hard, might be easy, but if you do these things you're sending her a very clear message: you're not interested in a serious relationship. A serious relationship is the only time these kind of actions are appropriate.
No Compliments
Never compliment a women.
It gives them a sense of power. You want to be in control. You don't want to let them think they can manipulate you. It raises her self-esteem and will probably lessen your chance of getting laid.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:09 pm
by _marg
Actually I agree with much of what he says, in that I think his list works even though it may not be the nicest way for a male to treat a female. I think a good part of it relates to human nature, that people tend to reward the squeaky wheel, tend to oblige the complainer, tend to take it as a personal afront if they are being ignored or mistreated and will go out of their way to change that person's apparent disinterest or seemingly cool or negative treatment of them. Whereas a person who is treated well (in beginning relationships) tends to take it for granted, and if treated especially well view the other person as "weak" even someone to be taken advantage of. Of course there are no hard and fast rules for everyone, so I'm only talking about the averages in relationships and in this case male/female ones. Once people are married the dynamics change or at least should change. At that point, the sort of gameplaying over power and control should stop, or be used only when appropriate.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:19 pm
by _Moniker
Okay, this is advice for men that only want to get laid and are looking for no relationships. I'd say that's probably okay advice if a man is only looking for that. I don't mind it that men look for casual sex -- or that women do either. I just wish people would be upfront about it. I've always been honest with a man and appreciated if they were likewise honest with me.
I just don't like the tricking aspect of it. I have no problem with people having casual sex and think people should be upfront about it. No games -- it's unethical.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:53 pm
by _GoodK
Mercury wrote:Leykis appeals to the basement dwelling, sexually inexperienced white trash mentality of misogynistic frat boys.
Your pic: is that ectoplasm merc? Did you see that ghost?
Does Leykis hit a little close to home?
He is a Libertarian, Atheist, and not affiliated with the LDS church so I don't really know why else would you feel so bitter towards him.