Commiefornia is denying an African American the right to run for governor

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Re: Commiefornia is denying an African American the right to run for governor

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The liberal Los Angeles Times printed an article claiming that Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy. You've been warned.

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Re: Commiefornia is denying an African American the right to run for governor

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Tinfoilhat wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:46 pm
The liberal Los Angeles Times printed an article claiming that Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy. You've been warned.

https://youtu.be/r3IRAT-4coQ
Hi, C -

You should link to the actual article, instead of a video with partisan spin. But, maybe you didn’t want folks to see that the article was penned by a black journalist.

Anyway, here’s another from the same journalist, in the wake of the first article -
Larry Elder says he’s not a face of white supremacy. His fans make it hard to believe

BY ERIKA D. SMITH COLUMNIST
AUG. 27, 2021 5 AM PT


Larry Elder is not the Black face of white supremacy. Or at least that’s what he keeps telling people.

I had to laugh last week when Elder, the radio talk show host who is leading the race to replace Gov. Gavin Newsom if he gets recalled, complained to Fox News that I had “attacked” him in my last column by pointing out that he supports systemically racist policies that would disproportionately harm Black people.
“I anticipated that would happen,” Elder told host Sean Hannity. “This is why a lot of people don’t go into politics because of the politics of personal destruction.”

“Apparently you can say anything about an African American and it’s fine,” a sympathetic Hannity responded a few minutes later.

I’m laughing because Hannity has no idea how right he is.

Despite Elder’s insistence during a recent rally in Woodland Hills that he couldn’t possibly be the palatable Black face covering for the ugliness of white supremacy, my social media feeds and inbox tell a different story.

For a solid week, I’ve been getting hundreds of racist messages from Elder’s angry, mostly self-proclaimed white supporters. People who, in their attempts to defend one Black man, seem to have no problem resorting to anti-Black tropes to tear down not just me, but Black people en masse.

That these are Elder’s most ardent fans should give every Californian pause.

There’s a reader named Christopher, who wrote to me in all lowercase letters: “as a white man, here’s some knowledge. everything you have that makes your life comfortable was built by white men... blacks aren’t oppressed, you have the most privlage [well, “privilege”] to spew hatred everyday. white people have built civilization comfortable. yes certain people have been evil but to talk of supremacy as if blacks aren’t guilty of it themselves. every black country is 3rd world don’t tell me blacks would run anything better.”

(I’m guessing he means except Elder.)

There’s also Richard: “You clearly got to your position from affirmative action!! Not like Larry Elder, any black person who is successful and made something of himself without crying being a victim because of his race.”

And Berry: “Stop blaming others and take responsibility for the sickening black culture in the inner cities. 95% of black men are killed by black men. 95% illiteracy rate. Teenage pregnancies and living a career off the welfare plantation.”

I know that Elder has supporters of all races who wouldn’t think of stringing together such vile words. Just like I know — and polls have shown — that Elder has intrigued people of all races who are seriously considering a vote to recall Newsom because they are livid over the state of affairs in California.

I get it. I’m also fed up with the explosion of homelessness, driven by an ever-worsening affordability crisis. And it makes me mad to remember the confusing and often contradictory messaging coming out of the Newsom administration during the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic.

But watching Elder make campaign stops across California reminds me of watching former President Trump pitch Black voters while he was running for president the first time: “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?”

Casting what, for most Democrats, would be a protest vote against Newsom would put Elder in a position to become governor — and open the door to far-right thinking and white supremacist policies supported by people like a Micah, who sent me a screenshot of the Wikipedia entry for the N-word.

And Randall: “I read your article and it seems mostly what I got out of it is the fact you’re upset your reparations might not happen. Never mind you personally have never experienced slavery, your parents were never slaves. Never mind this great nation has afforded you an excellent educational opportunity. Never mind this nation has not held back your opportunity to earn a good standard of living. It seems to me all you want to do is bitch and moan over a whole lot of nothing.”

And Brad: “Terrible journalism on your part but I guess that’s how you got the job, equity hire.”

Even Dennis: “You are racism promoters. Just like the good liberal DEMS who stay in power by convincing their minority under educated Throngs of DEM voters that their woes are caused by racist white people… THEN EXPLAIN WHY ASIANS ARE SO SUCCESSFUL IN AMERICA.”

I’m also apparently a racist. But why, I’m still not entirely sure. For agreeing with Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, that Elder is “a Black face on white supremacy”?

A reader named Jesse offered this explanation: “Whenever a black person doesn’t agree with your warped world view and your opinions about the black community, you are always the first ones to start hurling racist insults.”

On Wednesday, Elder’s campaign released a TV ad touting that he once “walked those hard streets” of South-Central L.A. He also asks: “Do I look like a white supremacist?” Skin color and upbringing don’t preclude anyone from being an enabler of white supremacy, though.

Not that Jason is convinced: “You are just another liberal degenerate scumbag that lies to people to persuade to them follow your socialists propaganda.”

Then there’s Shawn, who like a lot of readers seemed particularly upset that Black people consistently and overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Apparently life for Black Californians would be much better under Republican rule. We just need to see the light.

“You want to keep black people on the Democrat plantation. How dare you. Larry Elder will be the emancipation proclamation to finally free the black community from the chains of Democrat rule.”

Yawn.

Here’s the thing: People who are not Black don’t get to make decisions about what we feel is best for us.

Elder is, of course, a Black man and so he absolutely does get a say — and he has been saying a lot for a lot of years on his conservative radio talk show. That includes his notorious Rush Limbaugh-style attacks on Black people and Black elected officials, the same sort of “politics of personal destruction” that he now denounces.

The problem for Elder is that, for just as many years, he has failed to persuade a majority of Black Californians that what he’s saying is right and so he remains woefully outnumbered by those of us who lean left. That was true long before I started writing this column, and win or lose, that will be true long after the Sept. 14 recall election.

Underscoring this are the findings from a new poll of Black Americans conducted by the Black to the Future Action Fund. Among the top policy priorities respondents identified, Elder opposes three of them.

Those include raising the minimum wage, which he thinks should be zero, and creating a guaranteed income until the COVID-19 pandemic is over, which Elder, with his libertarian leanings, sees as encouraging government dependency.

The third policy priority, addressing the structural racism of white supremacy, particularly within police departments, is something that Elder doesn’t even think exists.

It’s no wonder then that the poll also found that most — 74% — Black people approve of their Democratic governors, while only about half do of their Republicans governors.

So, yes, I do believe that a wealthy white man will do less damage to Black Californians than Elder, a Black man who rose from poverty. On Tuesday afternoon, several Black elected officials, led by Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Oakland) held a rally via Zoom to say they believe the same.

The reason is simple. Newsom is at least trying to do what most of us want by addressing the root causes of our problems by dismantling white supremacy, not by embracing as supporters some of the very people who embody it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ?_amp=true
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Re: Commiefornia is denying an African American the right to run for governor

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canpakes wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:03 am
Tinfoilhat wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:46 pm
The liberal Los Angeles Times printed an article claiming that Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy. You've been warned.

https://youtu.be/r3IRAT-4coQ
Hi, C -

You should link to the actual article, instead of a video with partisan spin. But, maybe you didn’t want folks to see that the article was penned by a black journalist.

Anyway, here’s another from the same journalist, in the wake of the first article -
Larry Elder says he’s not a face of white supremacy. His fans make it hard to believe

BY ERIKA D. SMITH COLUMNIST
AUG. 27, 2021 5 AM PT


Larry Elder is not the Black face of white supremacy. Or at least that’s what he keeps telling people.

I had to laugh last week when Elder, the radio talk show host who is leading the race to replace Gov. Gavin Newsom if he gets recalled, complained to Fox News that I had “attacked” him in my last column by pointing out that he supports systemically racist policies that would disproportionately harm Black people.
“I anticipated that would happen,” Elder told host Sean Hannity. “This is why a lot of people don’t go into politics because of the politics of personal destruction.”

“Apparently you can say anything about an African American and it’s fine,” a sympathetic Hannity responded a few minutes later.

I’m laughing because Hannity has no idea how right he is.

Despite Elder’s insistence during a recent rally in Woodland Hills that he couldn’t possibly be the palatable Black face covering for the ugliness of white supremacy, my social media feeds and inbox tell a different story.

For a solid week, I’ve been getting hundreds of racist messages from Elder’s angry, mostly self-proclaimed white supporters. People who, in their attempts to defend one Black man, seem to have no problem resorting to anti-Black tropes to tear down not just me, but Black people en masse.

That these are Elder’s most ardent fans should give every Californian pause.

There’s a reader named Christopher, who wrote to me in all lowercase letters: “as a white man, here’s some knowledge. everything you have that makes your life comfortable was built by white men... blacks aren’t oppressed, you have the most privlage [well, “privilege”] to spew hatred everyday. white people have built civilization comfortable. yes certain people have been evil but to talk of supremacy as if blacks aren’t guilty of it themselves. every black country is 3rd world don’t tell me blacks would run anything better.”

(I’m guessing he means except Elder.)

There’s also Richard: “You clearly got to your position from affirmative action!! Not like Larry Elder, any black person who is successful and made something of himself without crying being a victim because of his race.”

And Berry: “Stop blaming others and take responsibility for the sickening black culture in the inner cities. 95% of black men are killed by black men. 95% illiteracy rate. Teenage pregnancies and living a career off the welfare plantation.”

I know that Elder has supporters of all races who wouldn’t think of stringing together such vile words. Just like I know — and polls have shown — that Elder has intrigued people of all races who are seriously considering a vote to recall Newsom because they are livid over the state of affairs in California.

I get it. I’m also fed up with the explosion of homelessness, driven by an ever-worsening affordability crisis. And it makes me mad to remember the confusing and often contradictory messaging coming out of the Newsom administration during the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic.

But watching Elder make campaign stops across California reminds me of watching former President Trump pitch Black voters while he was running for president the first time: “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?”

Casting what, for most Democrats, would be a protest vote against Newsom would put Elder in a position to become governor — and open the door to far-right thinking and white supremacist policies supported by people like a Micah, who sent me a screenshot of the Wikipedia entry for the N-word.

And Randall: “I read your article and it seems mostly what I got out of it is the fact you’re upset your reparations might not happen. Never mind you personally have never experienced slavery, your parents were never slaves. Never mind this great nation has afforded you an excellent educational opportunity. Never mind this nation has not held back your opportunity to earn a good standard of living. It seems to me all you want to do is bitch and moan over a whole lot of nothing.”

And Brad: “Terrible journalism on your part but I guess that’s how you got the job, equity hire.”

Even Dennis: “You are racism promoters. Just like the good liberal DEMS who stay in power by convincing their minority under educated Throngs of DEM voters that their woes are caused by racist white people… THEN EXPLAIN WHY ASIANS ARE SO SUCCESSFUL IN AMERICA.”

I’m also apparently a racist. But why, I’m still not entirely sure. For agreeing with Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, that Elder is “a Black face on white supremacy”?

A reader named Jesse offered this explanation: “Whenever a black person doesn’t agree with your warped world view and your opinions about the black community, you are always the first ones to start hurling racist insults.”

On Wednesday, Elder’s campaign released a TV ad touting that he once “walked those hard streets” of South-Central L.A. He also asks: “Do I look like a white supremacist?” Skin color and upbringing don’t preclude anyone from being an enabler of white supremacy, though.

Not that Jason is convinced: “You are just another liberal degenerate scumbag that lies to people to persuade to them follow your socialists propaganda.”

Then there’s Shawn, who like a lot of readers seemed particularly upset that Black people consistently and overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Apparently life for Black Californians would be much better under Republican rule. We just need to see the light.

“You want to keep black people on the Democrat plantation. How dare you. Larry Elder will be the emancipation proclamation to finally free the black community from the chains of Democrat rule.”

Yawn.

Here’s the thing: People who are not Black don’t get to make decisions about what we feel is best for us.

Elder is, of course, a Black man and so he absolutely does get a say — and he has been saying a lot for a lot of years on his conservative radio talk show. That includes his notorious Rush Limbaugh-style attacks on Black people and Black elected officials, the same sort of “politics of personal destruction” that he now denounces.

The problem for Elder is that, for just as many years, he has failed to persuade a majority of Black Californians that what he’s saying is right and so he remains woefully outnumbered by those of us who lean left. That was true long before I started writing this column, and win or lose, that will be true long after the Sept. 14 recall election.

Underscoring this are the findings from a new poll of Black Americans conducted by the Black to the Future Action Fund. Among the top policy priorities respondents identified, Elder opposes three of them.

Those include raising the minimum wage, which he thinks should be zero, and creating a guaranteed income until the COVID-19 pandemic is over, which Elder, with his libertarian leanings, sees as encouraging government dependency.

The third policy priority, addressing the structural racism of white supremacy, particularly within police departments, is something that Elder doesn’t even think exists.

It’s no wonder then that the poll also found that most — 74% — Black people approve of their Democratic governors, while only about half do of their Republicans governors.

So, yes, I do believe that a wealthy white man will do less damage to Black Californians than Elder, a Black man who rose from poverty. On Tuesday afternoon, several Black elected officials, led by Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Oakland) held a rally via Zoom to say they believe the same.

The reason is simple. Newsom is at least trying to do what most of us want by addressing the root causes of our problems by dismantling white supremacy, not by embracing as supporters some of the very people who embody it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ?_amp=true
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Cultellus wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:56 am
Meanwhile in California.

A liberal in a monkey mask threw eggs at a black man to protest white supremacy.

Mmmmkay.

Was this election/recall at all relevant before Dianne Feinstein died? Does anyone give one damn?
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Larry Elder has already made it clear that he is pre-positioning himself to challenge the recall election should he lose, a la Trump.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With less than a week to go until the California recall election, some Republicans are falsely claiming that votes are rigged in favor of Democrats and suggesting, without evidence, that Gov. Gavin Newsom can only win with fraudulent votes.
Apparently if the recall is voted down, the Republicans are prepared to maintain that this would only prove widespread election fraud and malfeasance on the part of local election officials in the counties that vote no.
The petition states that voters who use "improperly formed ballots" have an advantage over those who vote at the polls and that instances of "undocumented ballots" were discovered prior to Sept. 14. It offers no evidence for either of those claims.

It also states that, if there is an audit of the recall election, county election officials should not be a part of the recount, because doing so would be similar to "allowing an alleged criminal to examine the crime scene," the petition says.
What's next after that? A Jan 6 type insurrection attempt on the California State capitol in Sacramento? I greatly fear things will get awfully ugly and dangerous before this is all over!
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That’s not surprising. The GOPhers have attempted to recall Newsom five times prior to this one, and the only reason they got enough signatures this time around (their 6th attempt) is because the state gave their recall and several other ballot initiatives extra time because of Covid - a 120 day extension was tacked on to what is normally a 160 day signature gathering period. 280 days to get enough signatures so they could pull this crap. The GOP is truly a lost cause.

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That's interesting Doc! I hadn't realized that bit about the 120 day extension.
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The public sector union and teacher's union have already helped Democrats outspend Larry Elder 10:1.

It uas been interesting to see the racism that exists in white liberal democrats. California doesn't deserve Larry Elder. He's too good for them.
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Larry Elder’s campaign falsely claims voter fraud in recall election before results declared.
Perhaps the least surprising development in Tuesday’s California recall special election, a website paid for by the Larry Elder campaign is falsely claiming voter fraud ahead of its results.

The conservative radio show host appealed to his supporters on Monday, encouraging them to use an online form to report incidents of fraud. The site — forecasting its intent, as StopCAFraud.com — declares “We MUST Protect Election Integrity.”

“They say that in America, there are four boxes of liberty,” text on the website maintains. “The soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. When we vote we exercise our rights as Californians and as Americans to make our voices heard via the ballot box, having listened to others make theirs heard through the soapbox.”
In other words, according to Mr. Elder, If you can't win legitimately via the ballot box, go to the soapbox and try to sway public opinion to reject the result. If that doesn't work, go to the courts and sue and try to win via the jury box. If that doesn't work, go to the ammo box and try to prevail via violent means. Let's face it! Larry Elder is neither honest, nor a patriot, nor a believer in democracy!
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