Lou Dobbs: Voter Fraud and the Obama Connection

[_ajax18]

It reminds me of that post on "theonion.com" that showed Serbian troops being shipped into Florida to uphold peaceful elections in the U.S.A. Netflix also had a good movie on what went down in the 2000 election. 70,000 votes were estimated as simply being thrown out. I'm not sure we could do anything about people who said, I meant to vote for Gore but the ballot confused me and I voted for Bush. But some of the machines used to count were so archaic that if you didn't press the thing hard enough to perforate the paper, your vote was probably thrown out. When they tried to count these by inspection of the indentation, you basicall had a lawyer for each party objecting every one on through 70,000 plus votes.

The movie depicted the final count between Gore and Bush as being less than 800 votes in difference.

[_richardMdBorn]

That isn't the shocking part, though. The shocking part is that Obama goes on to say that voter registration fraud is no problem. On the contrary, like everything else that doesn't advance his campaign, it's a "distraction:"

What Obama knows but doesn't want to acknowledge is that when hundreds of thousands of phony registrations have been submitted, and ACORN knows what those phony names and addresses are, the door to voter fraud is wide open. Absentee ballots can easily be cast on behalf of those non-existent but registered "voters," and they can cast ballots in person as long as someone from ACORN or the Obama campaign is willing to show up at the polls and give a false name.

This is, however, a point of no concern to Obama, since he knows that every one of those votes will be cast for him and his fellow Democrats.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021779.php

[_richardMdBorn]

EA,

You appear to think that voter fraud is insignificant. According to my wife, it is massive in Chicago. She worked for the Illinois GOP in a paid position (paid by the feds) from legislation passed after the 2000 Florida problems. Are you denying that voter fraud is a big problem, or do you agree it is but assert that Acorn is not the perpetrator?

4. This has nothing to do with "voter fraud" - nothing at all to do with anyone trying to cast an extra vote. There has never been a single reported instance in which bogus registration forms have led to anyone voting improperly. To do that, they would have to show up at the polls, prove their identity as all first-time registrants must, and risk jail. The people who turned in these forms did so not because they wanted an extra vote, but because they didn't care enough to make sure eligible people got to vote at all.

Let’s say 100 fraudulent registrations are in a Democratic precinct where there are no Republican judges. The polls close and Democrats need more votes in a statewide race. What controls are there to prevent the Democratic judges from voting for those 100 non-existent people.

[_EAllusion]

I don't think it is insignificant. I think it is small enough to only have meaningful impact within a relatively small margin of error. Wisconsin almost certainly has been within that margin of error the last two elections, so clearly it isn't insignificant. Normally this is a point that I'm making to liberals, as they are the ones hysterically fearful of Republican election stealing tactics. As far as how extensive it is in the nortoriously corrupt Chicago region, I don't know. I know I can't trust you, as you breathlessly report the most inane rumors against Democrats as long as I've seen you post on politics. You're on par with a 9/11 truther talking about 9/11 when you discuss this kind of topic as far as I'm concerned.

As far as your question goes, there is more nuance. One, these fake registrations don't occur simply in areas exclusively controlled by Democrats, if only because most of what we are talking about is just employees trying to skirt the system to meet quotas. They're concentrated in Democratic areas, because that's where urban poor people are. Two, Democrat judges aren't all corrupt, and as such the integrity of judges are a partial check. Three, the federal government is available for election fraud investigations. It is the check you are rhetorically asking about. And it has had a reputation for going hard after Democrats under the Bush administration, including ironically witchhunts against ACORN. Obviously, counting the votes of Mickey Mouse or the same person 73 times isn't going to go unnoticed even if a judge tries. I wouldn't be at all shocked if some fraud occurs using the cover of inflated, more subtle registration numbers, but that is a different issue than linking ACORN to such fraud in any systematic way. The main point holds. There aren't verified incidents where false registrations gathered by them led to false votes being counted. So if it is occuring, it's flying below a radar trained on them. The problem is being distorted for political reasons, much like accusations against Diebold got out of hand on the left. Meanwhile, there are perfectly verified instances of Republican voter suppression programs going on right now that you or Kevin never get around to posting on for some reason, what with Kevin's independent investigation and all.

[_richardMdBorn]

Hi EA,

My wife was an election judge in the Streeterville area of Chicago in 2000. One of the Democratic judges did not want to do the additional checks which were supposed to occur for the people who registered shortly before the election. My wife objected and the IDs were required. Just imagine what happens when there are no Republican judges present.

[_Brackite]

This guy is my favorite guy over at CNN.

If anyone at CNN would provide an impartial coverage of Obama's "obscene and outrageous" connection to ACORN, it would be Dobbs. What follows is a transcript from last night's show. It is just amazing how democrats are trying to steal this election and nobody is doing much about it. He catches Obama in lies about his connections to it as well.

Hi Dartagnan,

Independent Lou Dobbs is also my favorite Guy over at on CNN. Lou Dobbs is a Great News Anchor, a Great News Communicator, and a Great News Commentary. Lou Dobbs is truly an Independent, and He is very Informative. Lou Dobbs has been lately doing some very Great Shows over at on CNN.


Lou Dobbs:
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/


Lou Dobbs attacks the media for attacking Joe The Plumber:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGjo7649MiY


LOU DOBBS TONIGHT - October 17, 2008:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html


LOU DOBBS TONIGHT - October 20, 2008:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Has Lou talked at all about Palin's leaving Wasilla with a mountain of debt by building an ice rink on land owned by someone else, or on John McCain's socialist past?