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For the Musicians / Music Hobbyists

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:07 am
by _asbestosman
A coworker decided to lend me this very awesome book:

DAFX-Digital Audit Effects by Udo Zölzer

While not as cool as all the synthesizers, amplifiers, and such that I see Steuss and Silent Kid posting, it was a book I was quite happy to get my hands on. With any luck, I'll be able to use some of the techniques along with MIT's CSoundto put something together. But no promises. I can hardly play the triangle let alone read music.


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Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:35 am
by _JohnStuartMill
Nice find! I'll have to pick that up when I get some money.

What all does everyone play, by the way? I do acoustic guitar, keyboard, brass instruments, and vocals, myself.

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:18 am
by _KimberlyAnn
You'll be great at reading music, Asbestosman. Math and music go hand in hand. :)

You'll have to post some of your tunes when you get things all figured out. Steuss and SilentKid have recorded some good stuff.

I play the piano, at least a little, and in high school I played the French horn in concert band and the mellophone in marching band. I also played the trumpet in a pinch.

I've been digging around in old photo boxes again and found this gem. Me and my friend, Kim, in HS Band:

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What dorks.

KA

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:24 am
by _silentkid
What a great pic!

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:46 am
by _Yoda
Interesting stuff, Abman! I use the Garage Band software with my Mac, and have done some VERY amateur recordings.

I play piano and do vocals. I also teach piano and voice in my private studio. We had a Master Class where my students performed on Friday night. :biggrin:

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:02 am
by _JohnStuartMill
KimberlyAnn wrote:You'll be great at reading music, Asbestosman. Math and music go hand in hand. :)

You'll have to post some of your tunes when you get things all figured out. Steuss and SilentKid have recorded some good stuff.

I play the piano, at least a little, and in high school I played the French horn in concert band and the mellophone in marching band. I also played the trumpet in a pinch.

I've been digging around in old photo boxes again and found this gem. Me and my friend, Kim, in HS Band:

Image

What dorks.

KA

Very nice!

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbyists

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:05 pm
by _KimberlyAnn
Thanks, JSM and SK!

SilentKid, you forgot to mention that you play everything. :)

JSM, I bet this board is full-up with former band nerds.

Liz, I think your recordings sound fantastic!

KA

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbiests

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:23 pm
by _personage
JohnStuartMill wrote:Nice find! I'll have to pick that up when I get some money.

What all does everyone play, by the way? I do acoustic guitar, keyboard, brass instruments, and vocals, myself.


I play a Fender Stratocaster and a Godin SD. I also have an Alvarez 12 string that I hardly ever pick up. I spent the 80's and early 90's singing in a band. Now the only audience I have are a couple of cats.

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbyists

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:04 pm
by _Doctor Steuss
asbestosman wrote:A coworker decided to lend me this very awesome book:

DAFX-Digital Audit Effects by Udo Zölzer

While not as cool as all the synthesizers, amplifiers, and such that I see Steuss and Silent Kid posting, it was a book I was quite happy to get my hands on. With any luck, I'll be able to use some of the techniques along with MIT's CSoundto put something together. But no promises. I can hardly play the triangle let alone read music.


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I think it’s way more cool (so cool, that proper grammar can’t describe it) than all of the bank-account draining crap that I have, and rarely use. Although most VST type stuff can leave little digital artifacts (and are usually no-where near as good as actual hardware) there’s a definite advantage to being able to do non-destructive editing. If you use a compressor, gate, reverb, or EQ in your recording chain, and later the track isn’t sitting in the mix quite right, you’re pretty much screwed. But with the emulators/digital effects, if it doesn’t sound right, or is taking up the same space as something else, then no worries… just change it.

I wish I had the ability and knowledge to understand computer crap (and the ability to custom-create things to suit my needs). I have a friend (I know, shocking) that makes his own guitar amps. He doesn't use any pedals; if there's a sound he wants, he just makes a new amp. You creative people (whether mechanically or digitally creative) piss me off.

Maybe you could make something that helps get rid of phase cancellation (a problem I’ve been running into lately). Or a nice, simple 30-band non-linear EQ.

Re: For the Musicians / Music Hobbyists

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:42 pm
by _asbestosman
Doctor Steuss wrote:Maybe you could make something that helps get rid of phase cancellation (a problem I’ve been running into lately). Or a nice, simple 30-band non-linear EQ.

I probably can't do much to help at this point. I'm not much for building electronics / amps. I made one once out of transistors for one of my undergrad electronics classes, but it really sucked (especially since we had to build the power supplies which did a poor job of regulating voltage).

The one thing I learned from my various electronics classes is that it's much easier to do digital processing than analog processing. If I were to build a 30-band non-linear EQ, I'd probably hook it up to an old computer using line-in and audio-out ports. Then I'd probably find a pre-existing program. If I needed more customization, I might create my own or start with CSound. If physical sliders were required, I would first see if there's an easy way to hook it up through a USB port.

Phase cancellation might be a bit harder to address depending on exactly the cause and extent. Since phase cancellation is sometimes harnessed for effect, just removing it might not be optimal. What may need to happen is to adjust something in the line such as reverb or flanger. Adjusting a signal's phase is actually fairly simple using digital techniques--possibly use a hilbert-transform or maybe a phase vocoder (with which you could even choose which frequencies need to have a phase adjustment).