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Landscapers were digging a hole for a pond in the back yard of a Boulder, Colorado home when their equipment uncovered a cache of 83 stone tools that had been buried by a person in the Clovis era. What is even more fascinating is that some of the tools had protein residues from extinct animals (camels, horses, sheep, bear), probably as a result of the original owner having used the scrapers to strip meat and/or prepare hides for use. Those protein residues allowed the cache to be dated to about 13,000 years before the present.
The Mahaffy Cache consists of 83 stone implements ranging from salad plate-sized, elegantly crafted bifacial knives and a unique tool resembling a double-bitted axe to small blades and flint scraps...

The artifacts were buried in a coarse, sandy sediment overlain by dark, clay-like soil and appear to have been cached on the edge of an ancient stream, said Bamforth. "It looks like someone gathered together some of their most spectacular tools and other ordinary scraps of potentially useful material and stuck them all into a small hole in the ground, fully expecting to come back at a later date and retrieve them."

A 2008 study led by the University of Oregon offers evidence that a cadre of comets exploded over North America about 12,900 years ago, triggering massive fires that caused the extinction of ice-age mammals and perhaps even the Clovis people.

Are you completely ignorant of the history of North American megafauna and their extinction as it relates to the arrival of humans on the continent? Or are you just feigning ignorance?


Phaedrus

Gazelam wrote:What is even more fascinating is that some of the tools had protein residues from extinct animals (camels, horses, sheep, bear), probably as a result of the original owner having used the scrapers to strip meat and/or prepare hides for use. Those protein residues allowed the cache to be dated to about 13,000 years before the present.

So, how do you account for horses being here 7,000 years before the Fall of Adam?

Do you have a link to this story?

I read Manfred's link, watched the little video and whatnot, and the bottom line is it still says that these and other animals mentioned in the story had gone extinct in the Americas during a timeframe that is still many thousands of years too old for their to have been Nephites and Lamanites around. I'm not sure what new evidence or meaning this is supposed to have in the context of the Book of Mormon, Gaz. Care to share with us your point?

Gazelam wrote: dated to about 13,000 years before the present.

Why not date them 13,000,000,000 is not that more credible?

Nightlion wrote:

Gazelam wrote: dated to about 13,000 years before the present.

Why not date them 13,000,000,000 is not that more credible?

No, it isn't.

Nightlion wrote:

Gazelam wrote: dated to about 13,000 years before the present.

Why not date them 13,000,000,000 is not that more credible?

Given that the Earth is only about 4,600,000,000 years old, it is decidedly not more credible.

Those horses didn't die until the fall of Adam. Or, I mean, the ones that weren't deliberately killed and eaten didn't die. The main obstacle to recovering full-sized horse remains contemporary to the Nephites is that they were restricted to a very small geographic area, and their bodies quickly deteriorated after death until they completely disappeared.