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Climategate: Truth hacked by MADB liberals

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:29 am
by _bcspace
On the MADB, poster Mongomery Price perpetrated a psuedo-scientific hack on the Climategate issue here:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/topic/46656-conservatives-jump-the-gun-global-warming-is-still-happening/

Instead of concentrating on science, his focus was on what conservative pundits had to say on the issue and the grasping liberals reaction to it. However, according to actual science, the conservative pundits are on the right track. From a professor of meteorology at MIT (and there are many many other examples besides this....

The Climate Science Isn't Settled-Confident predictions of catastrophe are unwarranted.

Yet articles from major modeling centers acknowledged that the failure of these models to anticipate the absence of warming for the past dozen years was due to the failure of these models to account for this natural internal variability. Thus even the basis for the weak IPCC argument for anthropogenic climate change was shown to be false.

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What does all this have to do with climate catastrophe? The answer brings us to a scandal that is, in my opinion, considerably greater than that implied in the hacked emails from the Climate Research Unit (though perhaps not as bad as their destruction of raw data): namely the suggestion that the very existence of warming or of the greenhouse effect is tantamount to catastrophe. This is the grossest of "bait and switch" scams. It is only such a scam that lends importance to the machinations in the emails designed to nudge temperatures a few tenths of a degree.

Re: Climategate: Truth hacked by MADB liberals

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:03 pm
by _richardMdBorn
Will the President change his stance on AGW as a result of these revelations? Don't hold your breath.
Global warming is real, is happening now and is the result of human activities.
http://obama.3cdn.net/4465b108758abf7a42_a3jmvyfa5.pdf

Re: Climategate: Truth hacked by MADB liberals

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 am
by _moksha
Does anyone yet know the fate of those eighteen BYU scientists who declared to the Utah State Legislature that the global climate change was real?

Re: Climategate: Truth hacked by MADB liberals

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:03 pm
by _richardMdBorn
The second winner of the Nobel Peace Prize who can credit his award to Bush steps into it again.
There are many kinds of truth. Al Gore was poleaxed by an inconvenient one yesterday.

The former US Vice-President, who became an unlikely figurehead for the green movement after narrating the Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth, became entangled in a new climate change “spin” row.

Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.

In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: “These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.”

However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast.

“It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,” Dr Maslowski said. “I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.”

Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a “ballpark figure” several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6956783.ece