Alice in Wonderland

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Alice in Wonderland

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Tim Burton fans, look alive! I just got in from seeing Alice in Wonderland in 3D. You MUST go! Burton far surpasses his previous films in this "world below the world" flick of characters that embrace Lewis Carol in a surreal type of realism that one would expect only from Burton.

It is Burton beyond Burton!

As for Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter:

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He's still got it, ladies!

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I personally didn't like the movie. The original story is about the surreal and the insane: "If you weren't mad you wouldn't be here." It's supposed to be psychedelic and confusing with it's own odd internal logic.

This take turned Alice into a prophesied hero here to free the kingdom. Prophecy? Chosen One? The movie has a defined purpose for Alice? What? Did you read the original book when writing the screenplay?

I was hoping for a great take on the story but the old Disney version captured it better then this did.
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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Just got back from seeing it tonight. LOVED IT!!!!! :D What an imagination Tim Burton has!
I loved the feminist message in the movie, and the story he created from the original.


Helena Bonham Carter's (another favorite) gave a phenomenal performance. Loved Johnny Depp, and he's one of my favorite actors.

Did anyone else think Alice looked identical to a younger Gwyneth Paltrow? Beautiful actress.

The Cheshire cat was purrrrrfect.
The entire cast was outstanding.

I've been having fun all month shopping online for some
Alice in Wonderland gifts for the kids. They are as obsessed with the movie as I've been. I'll be seeing it again.
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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The Nehor wrote:I personally didn't like the movie. The original story is about the surreal and the insane: "If you weren't mad you wouldn't be here." It's supposed to be psychedelic and confusing with it's own odd internal logic.

This take turned Alice into a prophesied hero here to free the kingdom. Prophecy? Chosen One? The movie has a defined purpose for Alice? What? Did you read the original book when writing the screenplay?

I was hoping for a great take on the story but the old Disney version captured it better then this did.



I loved the message of the hero Alice rescuing herself and breaking free from the madness of her reality; those who were trying to force her into a defined role. That was her insanity. Great movie for a feminist.
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Seven wrote:I loved the message of the hero Alice rescuing herself and breaking free from the madness of her reality; those who were trying to force her into a defined role. That was her insanity. Great movie for a feminist.

Yes, I'm interested in seeing it after reading this review:

Don't Let Your Daughters Grow Up Without Alice in Wonderland
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He's still got it, ladies!


Yes, If I recall correctly, women in nations where evolution has detoured and stopped (such as Europe) prefer more feminine looking men. ;)
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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MsJackMeyers wrote:
Seven wrote:I loved the message of the hero Alice rescuing herself and breaking free from the madness of her reality; those who were trying to force her into a defined role. That was her insanity. Great movie for a feminist.

Yes, I'm interested in seeing it after reading this review:

Don't Let Your Daughters Grow Up Without Alice in Wonderland



I went to the movie last night not knowing anything about the Burton interpretation of the story, and didn't read any of the reviews, but a friend had told me the only thing they knew about the Burton film was that it sucked. So I was going into it very worried about the story (but knew the visuals would be stunning).

After the first 20 minutes I realized it was going to be a feminist movie and must have had a big grin on my face as each metaphor was revealed! :D This story really resonated with me (for gender and religion), and I can't think of a better Disney movie for my girls. I had trouble sleeping last night having felt so elated over the film, and thinking about all the powerful messages in the story. It was a brilliant way to symbolize the insanity that Alice was feeling having to conform. The message is not only for girls, but for anyone who is forced into a defined role. When I woke up this morning the first thought I had was to google others who interpreted it the same.
Thank you for the link! I'm surprised how many negative reviews are out there. :(

I came across this site and loved these quotes that perfectly embody Alice:

"Choosing a path that deviates from traditional gender roles, and choosing to seize one’s own power, is often a daunting challenge."

"Strength and femininity are not antithetical."
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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I agree that the point the movie had was a good one but I grew up on the original. The whole point of Alice's journey is that it had no point. It was pure madness, and fun for it.

I'm worried now that with the success of this someone will remake "The Phantom Tollbooth" and put in some kind of message.

Stop raping my childhood!!!!

Oh wait, too late: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpAx8Z5z40

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Like the original Alice I think I will just stay an island of sanity surrounded by madness.
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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The original Disney "Alice in Wonderland" comes out on DVD this week, Nehor, if that's any consolation. LOL

I haven't seen the new "Alice" yet, but really want to.

We saw "How to Train a Dragon" today with my 6 year old boy. It was awesome!!!
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Re: Alice in Wonderland

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The Nehor wrote:I agree that the point the movie had was a good one but I grew up on the original. The whole point of Alice's journey is that it had no point. It was pure madness, and fun for it.

I'm worried now that with the success of this someone will remake "The Phantom Tollbooth" and put in some kind of message.

Stop raping my childhood!!!!

Oh wait, too late: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpAx8Z5z40

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Like the original Alice I think I will just stay an island of sanity surrounded by madness.



Nehor, you made me laugh! :D
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That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
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