krose wrote:By the way, when they first announced the decision to sue Arizona, I was a little annoyed. They were in the right, legally, to do so, but it was a stupid move politically.
Half correct..... They had no "right" or obligation at all. There are plenty of reasons why this is. But, you are right it was stupid politically.
It would have been smarter to simply ignore Arizona's silliness and let it slide. After all, as few people seem to realize, the AZ legislature amended the original bill and removed the teeth from it (including the profiling), so that the law as signed really accomplished nothing new. It was really not much more than a message bill that made people think they were doing something.
Hey, you said something accurate.... But, then why did they have a "right" to sue? After all, the law simply mimicked the federal law, thus no legal nor moral right.
But the Obama administration has been consistently incompetent politically, especially when it comes to getting their message out and letting people know of their real accomplishments.
Again, half true.... Agree that they are politically incompetent, but they are incompetent period, not simply politically. As to their "real" accomplishments, they are all a smoke screen and lie. Their "real" accomplishments have been focused on destroying the country and gaining power. Just look at the Wisconsin thing. They are more interested in keeping full union power rather than balancing budgets. Just look at all the Obama stimuluses, they were all Democrat based, not given to the actual people at all.
Amazingly, most people believe their federal taxes have gone up, instead of the fact that 95% received a tax cut as part of the stimulus package (including businesses); and that taxes are high now, rather than the fact that they are lower than they've been since the 1950s. Also, people are still arguing against the health care law as if it were UK-style universal care. The widespread ignorance is incredible.
What you are clearly clueless of is that they have played a "shell game" and you've completely fell for it. They lower taxes in a couple of areas, while in others vastly raise and create them, some of which haven't been implimented yet, but are due to.
As to the Health care thing, the Public and GOP wouldn't allow them to impliment ALL that they actually want to. Thus, they've implimented a compromise, and then the next time around, they will make us fully socialist. It is YOUR ignorance that is incredible. Liberals in the 60's/70's realized that the way to transform this country was to "pretend" they were something they weren't, gaining power, and making "small" changes in order to reach their goals, rather than using violence, etc. to try and reach their goals. In other words, they are using our system against us, they tell us one thing, while believing and doing another.
Further, there are significant problems with the Health care bill.... stuff hidden in there.
Even further, there are MUCH BETTER ways to fix the Health care system, but libs won't allow it, because that isn't actually their goal. Do you get it? It's also clear that they aren't actually trying to fix it, because they play class warfare games in trying to impliment it. People actually trying to make healthcare better would be acting completely different, instead of as fascists forcing something seriously flawed down the country's throat.
Of course, it doesn't help that the opposition has a huge advantage in corporate money and media exposure, coupled with a willingness to blatantly make up their own versions of 'facts' and repeat them until they become commonly believed. That is very difficult to overcome.
Classic liberal class warfare and lies..... They are not "made up" facts, they are peoples own words, the words in the actual bills, etc. etc. You are simply clueless that you've willingly fallen for the "rhetoric" of Obama and the libs, rather than the actual facts and truth. If Fox and Talk Radio didn't exist, people would be absolutely brainwashed, not knowing the WHOLE TRUTH, thus not able to make an informed and accurate judgment, because all the other networks and lamestreem media has become entirely left MSNBC being the worst of all, and the others on a spectrum of liberal bearing false witness and perversion.
I mean, I don't have Cable right now, thus stuck watching local channels and news, and it drives me nuts. Because I watch these news programs, and they are nothing but simplistic liberal crap and lying. I have to turn on the radio to get the FULL FACTS of a particular issue, or go online. Take the Wisconsin thing as an example, if I just watched the local channels, I would think the Gov was simply trying to take away union rights, and bust the union, but that is a complete lie and perversion of the facts, not even the truth at all. I learned what the full facts and truth was because of talk radio. Facts and truth by the way that liberals don't say such as you, you look at issues like children, and just believe what the liberals tell you, rather than truly delving into the issues. Anyway.