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Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:57 am
by _ludwigm
bcspace wrote:I've never met or heard of a liberal who could understand the complex interplay of history and economics. Conservatives seem to understand these things intuitively.
... says the caveman
http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm wrote:prisoners chained in a cave, unable to turn their heads. All they can see is the wall of the cave. Behind them burns a fire. Between the fire and the prisoners there is a parapet, along which puppeteers can walk. The puppeteers, who are behind the prisoners, hold up puppets that cast shadows on the wall of the cave. The prisoners are unable to see these puppets, the real objects, that pass behind them. What the prisoners see and hear are shadows and echoes cast by objects that they do not see.
prisoners chained ...
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:51 am
by _Obiwan
Ludwigm.... It's a simple fact that liberals aren't the ones who understand "complexity", it's Conservatives.
There is for example a reason why most "youth" are Liberal, that's because they still think like children, not having deep thinking and knowledge skills, and also as most youth grow they tend to become more Conservative.
Likewise, in every issue Liberals judge things according to "simplistic" views, rather than deeply looking into the issue. Nearly every issue is like this. Rather than judging conservatives not liking Obama because of who he is and issues, they judge things like a "child" and call our judgment actually racism instead.
Take liberal judgments of food or environment. They try to ban "fat" foods. However, in their childish judgments they don't realize that fat is actually good for you, and it's actually the modern lifestyle, that is less exercise, and too much carbohydrates which is causing obesity, not actually "fat" foods. Or with the environment, they act as a child and ban this or that, no matter the economic expense to people when doing so, ignoring the fact that there are "better" ways to fix the various issues.
Take health care or taxes, they think that more money will fix things, taking it from others, rather than changing and improving the "systems" themselves as being the ACTUAL problem, doing things that work rather than things that don't work.
Anyway, much more could be said, but these are the actual facts.
Liberal judgment is "childish".... not in any way "complex". Of course, to be fair, some liberal judgments can indeed be complex such as nutballs like Noam Chomsky, but they are complex "fantasy", not actual reality, truth and fact. They are complex perversion of truth, not truth. In fact, that's possibly why these preliminary brain tests might result in showing liberals tending to have stronger patterns in the "complex" section of the brain. It's because liberals have created complex fantasy's from reality, thus think too much.
But anyway, lot's of potential problems with the study. Did they compare smart conservatives with smart liberals? What kind of liberals and conservatives? Liberals and conservatives of other country's aren't entirely consistent or similar in ideology with say America conservatives or liberals.
The same problem occurs with anti-mormons.... Take the fact that more computer porn is viewed in Utah than other states per-capita. The anti-mormon and likewise liberal will view that as a "Mormon" problem. But, the conservative or Mormon would understand that there is much more to those facts. Things such as Utah is only like 60% Mormon and maybe 40% active Mormon. As well that Utah also has more computers in homes per-capita than other states. Also the fact that porn is severely restricted in Utah, unlike in other states, thus non-members or inactives who would be more interested in porn would more often than other states tend to use the computer to view porn. Same for the anti-depressant issue. The liberal and anti-mormon would make a childish judgment from the stats. But, a conservative and Mormon would understand that there is MORE facts on the issue that need to be understood, that it's not actually a "Mormon" problem. Anyway.... so much could be said.
Liberals simply aren't on the "higher" intellectual scale as they would in their elitism believe.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:04 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:I've never met or heard of a liberal who could understand the complex interplay of history and economics. Conservatives seem to understand these things intuitively.
Maybe it's just that liberals have a hard time processing your nonsense.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:07 pm
by _Buffalo
Obiwan wrote:Ludwigm.... It's a simple fact that liberals aren't the ones who understand "complexity", it's Conservatives.
Sorry, science says otherwise. Your shriveled, puny anterior cingulate cortex is incapable of processing complexity.
However, your capacity for unmitigated, pants-wetting terror at the thought of gay marriage is impressive.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:25 pm
by _bcspace
I've never met or heard of a liberal who could understand the complex interplay of history and economics. Conservatives seem to understand these things intuitively.
Maybe it's just that liberals have a hard time processing your nonsense.
That would prove the hypothesis wrong then, lol!
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:35 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:
That would prove the hypothesis wrong then, lol!
The study didn't say anything about the nonsense center of the brain, which in your case is enlarged to the point of leaking out your ears.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:24 pm
by _bcspace
That would prove the hypothesis wrong then, lol!
The study didn't say anything about the nonsense center of the brain,
It did admit to hypothesis though which means liberals tend to nuance themselves out of the worlds of science and reality and into corners; some of them dark and dank like homesexuality and feminism.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:39 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:[
It did admit to hypothesis though which means liberals tend to nuance themselves out of the worlds of science and reality and into corners; some of them dark and dank like homesexuality and feminism.
That's just the fear section of your brain acting up again - fear of letting women think for themselves, and fear of the "other"
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:44 pm
by _bcspace
It did admit to hypothesis though which means liberals tend to nuance themselves out of the worlds of science and reality and into corners; some of them dark and dank like homesexuality and feminism.
That's just the fear section of your brain acting up again - fear of letting women think for themselves, and fear of the "other"
It's more like your own fear of losing your sexuality, so you must visit these corners from time to time to make sure all of you is still there. So once again Buffalo proves the OP's hypothesis wrong.
Re: Liberals understand complexity conservatives understand fear
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:50 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:
It's more like your own fear of losing your sexuality, so you must visit these corners from time to time to make sure all of you is still there. So once again Buffalo proves the OP's hypothesis wrong.
Right, just like I'm afraid that I might grow ten feet tall overnight.
As comebacks go, that was pretty incompetent, as everyone knows that not only are conservatives terrified of gay people or being gay themselves, that they're the only ones who think that you can change back and forth, which is really wishful thinking on the part of the self-loathing closet case conservative.