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Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:24 pm
by _Will Schryver
I am in the process of recording (if nothing else, for the sake of my posterity) as many of my piano compositions as I can. One of the things I have done in my various wards over the years is to compose my own arrangements of hymns out of our hymnbook, and present them as piano solos during Sacrament meeting. Just yesterday I performed my most recent arrangement: Jesus, Once of Humble Birth. I had previously recorded a medley of songs with the tune of "Greensleeves" as the dominant theme, which I performed for our ward 2010 Christmas program. It is the second song in the current list at the link below. The third and fourth songs are just a pair of somewhat experimental original compositions I did a few years back right after I purchased a new digital piano.

I make no pretense to being a piano/keyboard virtuoso. I am not. I am purely a self-taught musician, and I don't pretend to be anything more. But I do love music, and I do love a great many of our LDS hymns (especially the ones that derive from 19th century [and older] folk music), and it gratifies me very much to produce my own renditions of those hymns I love best. I am sharing this here in the hope that perhaps some few others will be able to share in the passion I feel for these things.

If not, I understand. Really. And I begrudge none of you your antipathy. Indeed, I have a certain respect for those whose allegiances and affinities are clearly defined, as opposed to those who can't seem to decide from day to day which side of the line they prefer. Besides, I'm certain that, for many of you, listening to me make music, and trying to like it, will be roughly the equivalent of trying to derive inspiration from a Hitler watercolor, and therefore I will understand entirely if you feel it best to altogether avoid placing yourselves in such an awkward position.

Schryver Piano Compositions
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Some might have an interest in this music as well, about which I learned from The Dark Lord Daniel C. Peterson: The Sabre Rattlers

ETA: I quite like the last three tracks on the album, 7, 8, and 9.

Here's an extract from the bio page on Mark Abernathy, the creative force behind The Sabre Rattlers:

The Sabre Rattlers is the current project of guitarist Mark Abernathy and features a rotating cast of contributing musicians and friends, including Bukka Allen (the Bodeans), Kim Deschamps (Cowboy Junkies), Glenn Fukunaga (Dixie Chicks, Bob Dylan), Warren Hood (the Waybacks), Teal Collins from the Mothertruckers and Grammy Award-winning producer Lloyd Maines playing dobro. The lush instrumentation you hear on these songs is the work of Abernathy and his hugely talented cast; utilizing the accordion, Hammond B3, Harmonium, pedal steel, fiddle and more. ‘Twixt Me and the Peaceful Rest is a collection of favorite hymns; performed with a widely-cast net of influences and personal experiences.

Mark Abernathy

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:42 pm
by _Yoda
Will wrote:Besides, I'm certain that, for many of you, listening to me make music, and trying to like it, will be roughly the equivalent of trying to derive inspiration from a Hitler watercolor, and therefore I will understand entirely if you feel it best to altogether avoid placing yourselves in such an awkward position.


ROTFLMAO! I've missed you, Will! Welcome back to the board.

I can't listen to your link at the moment, since I'm at work. I'll listen when I get home, though, and give you feedback.

Hey, the beauty of music is that, I can think you're really crazy and still enjoy your music. ;-)

I find Barbara Streisand's political views completely bonkers, but she is one of the greatest Musical Theater singers of our time! ;-)

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:42 pm
by _RockSlider
I listened to them all, first two, very nice for a total kick back, relax and reflect mood. Last two not so much to my liking, but nice just the same.

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:01 pm
by _Yoda
That's a really pretty arrangement of "Jesus, Once of Humble Birth".

Do you happen to have the music written down? I would love to use it to play for primary prelude.

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:14 pm
by _Will Schryver
Since, as I understand the prevailing conditions, one cannot link from this board to the MDD board, and since a question has been raised about whether or not my music is "written down," I am posting the following which I originally wrote in response to a similar question posed to me by "DaddyG" on the mirror thread to this one that I started on the MDD board:

They are improvisations. I don't know how to write music. I kind of wish I did ...

... [because], unless I really pound them into my brain, once I move on to something else, I kind of forget how to play something exactly as I played it before. However, so long as I record them, then I can always learn them again in just a few minutes, by ear. I often feel like my music travels straight from my ear to my fingers, bypassing the cognitive centers of my brain in the process. I routinely compose the majority of a piece in my mind before I ever sit down to actually try to play it, then I have to more or less "learn" how to play by ear what I've already composed and stored in my memory. Also, when I'm playing, I don't so much try to think about where my fingers are supposed to go, as I try to let my ear govern where they go; divorce the cumbersome "thinking" part from the process, and just try to "feel" the music into being. I guess that's kind of different from Harold Hill's Think System. Or maybe it's what he really meant by the phrase "think system."

(In my mind, I literally hear the notes playing, even full chords. It's kind of weird, because I've heard people suggest it's not possible to "hear" multiple notes at the same time, but I know I hear the blended notes of 3, 4, even 5 note chords, all at the same time. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that I hear the "color" of the chords. For example, to my ear, there is a profound difference, that goes entirely beyond pitch, between an E and E flat chord. They are two completely different colors, almost like yellow and blue are different. In fact, I'd say major keys like A and D ... they're what I'd perhaps call "yellow" keys. E, C, G, F, Bb (the majors) are all, depending on the harmonic chords you choose to go with them, more in the area of orange and red. Eb (Cm) is blue. Ab (Fm) is dark blue. Db (Bbm) is purple. I love Abm and Gbm. (I never met a black key on the keyboard that I didn't prefer over its white neighbor. Maybe that makes me a racist of some kind. ;-) )

Anyway, the point is that I view the different keys not in terms of pitch, but as different colors, each with its uniquely different feel, one from the other.

I have a song for which I have only recorded the guitar part so far, even though I have the words, melody, and even the guitar solo already worked out--in my mind. (I think my ADD keeps getting in the way of finishing it!) Anyway, it's called So Far Between. Here is a link to a page where you can listen to it (it's the last song in the list, and if you're interested, the as-yet-unsung lyrics are even available via the drop-down arrow to the right of the song title): So Far Between

If I recall correctly, I tuned the guitar to an open Gbm chord (starting with a Db on the low string), and then figured out a whole set of chord positions based on that tuning. It produces a very unique "color" of music, different from any other tuning I have used. It's very full and haunting, full of droning notes, kind of like a bagpipe.

Anyway, I'm not sure if any of that makes sense, but it's the way it works for me. I've now rambled almost incoherently, so I'll stop.

I know there is good composition software for printing out sheet music of anything you play into a digital keyboard, but I haven't yet purchased and figured out how to use any of the available products. I probably should before I get too old to figure it all out, although I do believe that simply recording my songs will be enough to preserve them, so long as there are people who learn how to play by ear, which is something that runs in my family--about 6 generations in a row now, from at least my great-great grandfather Thomas Hardy, who came from England across the plains to Utah in 1860.

Original Post at MDD

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:05 pm
by _Yoda
Interesting, Will.

Do you also read music, in addition to playing by ear?

Where I can see the software being helpful is if you ever decided that you wanted to orchestrate one of your pieces. A conductor would need proper key signatures for adaptation to different instruments. It would also open up the ability for your pieces to be played by more musicians, who may not have your gift of ear training.

Excellent work, at any rate! And, I like the recording venue you chose. I may create a couple of albums on there myself.

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:08 pm
by _Yoda
Will, you should check out or Writers Workshop Forum. It is for all types of artists. Many of us have posted recordings there. Please feel free to post your pieces there as well! :-)

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:00 pm
by _Nomad
Very nice Will. I actually like the Greensleeves piece better than the Jesus Once of Humble Birth piece. And I like the Isis one. Not sure about the Flying Aces thing. It sounds a little ... I don't know ... manufactured in comparison to the others. Still, very impressive work. As you recall, I saw you play the guitar and sing that one time. This piano stuff is different in style (you know I like that hillbilly blues stuff) but I still like what you have done. Kudos.

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:06 pm
by _Buffalo
Nomad wrote:Very nice Will. I actually like the Greensleeves piece better than the Jesus Once of Humble Birth piece. And I like the Isis one. Not sure about the Flying Aces thing. It sounds a little ... I don't know ... manufactured in comparison to the others. Still, very impressive work. As you recall, I saw you play the guitar and sing that one time. This piano stuff is different in style (you know I like that hillbilly blues stuff) but I still like what you have done. Kudos.


Nothing like patting yourself on the back. ;)

Re: Music from the Dark Side of Mormonism

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:34 pm
by _Will Schryver
I have recorded and uploaded two new songs to the "Schryver Piano Compositions" link referenced in the OP.