Quasimodo thread 1 The founders of this country were liberal

[_richardMdBorn]

Quasimodo asserted

The founders of this country were as liberal as it comes. Overthrowing a Monarchy to establish an egalitarian government.

I argued that

If you compare the American War of Independence with the French Revolution, it comes off as conservative. The leaders of 1776 were largely in power in the Early Republic. The American WI was partially a civil war, but there were no massacres of the magnitude of what happened in the Vendee during the French Revolution. The military hero, Washington, refused to become a king and voluntarily gave up power. Napoleon seized power and became emperor. John Adams, one of the American leaders, defended the British soldiers charged after the Boston Massacre.

I’m open to further discussion of this. I know a fair bit about English and American history, especially the English Civil War. I’ve taken classes from David Underdown and John Morrill on the subject.

[_bcspace]

They were liberal, but not in today's sense of political liberals being socialist for example. It is only among today's political conservatives that one finds liberalism of the founding fathers sort.