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As lifelong Republican and southerner I must say I'm disappointed in Rick Parry. His attacks on Romney simply need not be that ugly. When Parry boasted of creating jobs, Romney pointed out that most of those jobs were for illegal immigrants. Isn't that truth? Does a job as cashier at WalMart count the same as creating a job as an engineer with Bowing?

I am encouraged by the Republican fields talk on immigration in a country that can't really decide whether there should be a border or not. Herman Cain simply asked that we enforce the current law. Amen to that. Michelle Bachman seems to have the policies I like best of all on it. The mere fact that they're willing to use the term "illegal" immigrants is refreshing to me. I can't even use the term "illegal immigrant," instead of immigrant without being branded a racist by those who believe there should be no border. It's as if the fact that they don't agree with the law somehow makes it legal and above being called what it is. So much for majority rule and democratic legislation.

I wonder whether illegal and mass immigration will be issues in the coming election. At some point the American people are going to get tired of being responsible for helping "la raza," multiply indefinitely at their expense. I can't see Obama's stance of, "Sending Jose to the moon," on the American taxpayers dime being very helpful to him in this election.

The mere fact that they're willing to use the term "illegal" immigrants is refreshing to me. I can't even use the term "illegal immigrant," instead of immigrant without being branded a racist by those who believe there should be no border.

Just tell them you're all for legal immigration and ask them if their plans result in legal, as opposed to illegal, immigration.

I wonder whether illegal and mass immigration will be issues in the coming election. At some point the American people are going to get tired of being responsible for helping "la raza," multiply indefinitely at their expense. I can't see Obama's stance of, "Sending Jose to the moon," on the American taxpayers dime being very helpful to him in this election.

The solution is to:

1. Build a comprehensive and manned border fence.
2. Punish businesses, states, local governments, schools, and individuals, for hiring, registering, buying from and selling or renting to, or otherwise benefiting illegals.
3. All current illegals may become legal by going back across the border and coming back in through the front door. It is crucial that an illegal not be able to go to some office anywhere in the U.S. to become legal.
4. No need for mass roundups and deportations.

by the way, it's Boeing.

That is an excellent point BCSpace. Do you think the majority of American voters agree with us on this point? I'd really be interested to see a poll on the issue. If it's true that most American voters do not want to enforce the border than I'd have say we pretty much deserve the consequences. But if it really is just a powerful minority of American's at the top on both the left and right stopping border enforcement, that's even more upsetting to me.

That is an excellent point BCSpace. Do you think the majority of American voters agree with us on this point?

I think they do. But the party in power does not represent the majority on this issue.

I'd really be interested to see a poll on the issue. If it's true that most American voters do not want to enforce the border than I'd have say we pretty much deserve the consequences. But if it really is just a powerful minority of American's at the top on both the left and right stopping border enforcement, that's even more upsetting to me.

If they're opposing it, they're really not on the Right are they? As for polls, they are easily found by internet search. Here is one from the left wing Time:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/4/9/224821.shtml

Americans support building a security fence along the entire 2,000 mile U.S.- Mexican border by a landslide, a new Time magazine poll has found.

By a margin of 56 to 40 percent, respondents said they want the wall built from sea to shining sea - not just the 700 miles stipulated in the House plan, a proposal the press calls "draconian."

In more evidence that the American people want a tougher crackdown on illegal immigration than anything favored by Congress or the media, 62 percent told Time that they favored using the military to guard the border. Just 35 percent opposed.

But the poll's biggest shocker may be on the question of deporting illegals back to their native country, an option that politicians and the press say is out of the question.

Time found, however, that 47 percent of those surveyed actually favor deporting "all illegal immigrants," and 49 percent were opposed.

Most, 51 percent, said the U.S. would be "better of" if all illegals were deported and the border sealed to prevent any more from coming in. Just 38 percent disagreed.

A full 75 percent say illegals should be denied government supplied health care and food stamps, with 21 percent saying they should get those benefits. A majority, 69 percent, say illegals shouldn't be allowed to get U.S. drivers licenses.

Time surveyed 1004 adult Americans on March 29 and 30. The poll has a margin of error of +/- 3 percent

Thanks for that poll. That seems to say what I was thinking right there. My question is why the issue of illegal immigration has been basically out of the question during election years for the past 20 years. It seems like neither party campaigns very strongly on it one way or the other. We hear general issues like creating jobs and the "economy." It stands to reason that if unemployment is high, illegal immigration is going to exacerbate the problem. But in practice, politicians continue to give the country away at our expense.

I remember the Republicans saying a few years back that it doesn't make any sense to talk about any course of action if we can't/won't enforce the border. But in the end it seems like against the wishes of the American people, nothing really gets done about it and the border continues to be porous.

Thanks for that poll. That seems to say what I was thinking right there. My question is why the issue of illegal immigration has been basically out of the question during election years for the past 20 years. It seems like neither party campaigns very strongly on it one way or the other.

Because liberals and their media allies have succesfully equated opposition to illegal immigration to racism and conservatives, who typically are instinctively right about the issues nevertheless are not united enough to stand against it. Individual conservative candidates, rather than forcefully stating the obvious truth, tend to walk a tightrope so as not to offend anyone becoming liberals themselves in the process. Not real liberals, but the liberals other liberals want you to think they are. Our weakness is that we are independent-minded and not conformist mob-minded like liberals.

When conservatives are able to awaken grassroots support, that is when we triumph over an entrenched left-wing Marxist like Obama or Harry Reid.

When conservatives are able to awaken grassroots support, that is when we triumph over an entrenched left-wing Marxist like Obama or Harry Reid.

Didn't Bob Dole support some of your ideas to fight the economic drag caused by illegal immigration back in 1996. I was on a mission in Latin America at the time and I could see how real and pervasive the problem was. I was a big fan of Bob Dole. To me the results of that election between Dole and Clinton were a testimony against the American voter. We should have had a grassroots movement supporting Bob Dole, but sadly the American majority just wasn't on the right side during this critical time. They likened Bob Dole's efforts at securing the border to the Berlin Wall. A lot of Republicans are to blame for having given away the country just as much as the Democrats. Clinton was and still is a disgrace to the south in my view, but he trounced a much better man in that election thanks to the American voter.

bcspace wrote:When conservatives are able to awaken grassroots support, ...

So when is the next occurance of a full moon on a Friday the 13th?

bcspace wrote: All current illegals may become legal by going back across the border and coming back in through the front door.

That sure beats the service entrance.