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I haven't posting much in the last couple of months since I was busy preparing two talks which I delivered a month ago in London. Obama continues to lie about his background with at least the tacit support of the mainstream media. Here for discussion is a post I made on another thread. I may start other threads over the next month or two if there's interest from other posters.

Obama said that he did not know the extent of Wright’s controversial comments until recently. He confirmed that he was not in the church when Wright made the comments that were reported this week.

"I wasn’t in church during the time that these statement were made," Obama said. "I did not hear such incendiary language myself, personally. Either in conversations with him or when I was in the pew, he always preached the social gospel."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... -comments/

However, a year earlier, Obama disinvited Rev. Wright from participating in the announcement of his candidacy for the presidency.

Mr. Wright said that in the phone conversation in which Mr. Obama disinvited him from a role in the announcement, Mr. Obama cited an article in Rolling Stone, “The Radical Roots of Barack Obama.”

According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/us/po ... nted=print

I guess Rev. Wright got rough in sermons Obama both heard and did not hear. Oprah attended Wright’s church.

Winfrey was a member of Trinity United from 1984 to 1986, and she continued to attend off and on into the early to the mid-1990s. But then she stopped. A major reason—but by no means the only reason—was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

According to two sources, Winfrey was never comfortable with the tone of Wright's more incendiary sermons, which she knew had the power to damage her standing as America's favorite daytime talk-show host.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... right.html

So Oprah, who attended Trinity United for far less than the 20 years Obama was there, heard Rev. Wright give incendiary sermons but Obama didn’t. Anyone who believes this also believes in the tooth fairy.

Richard. You have one link to a comment section of a four-month-old article and two other links that don't work. Besides that, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about this 2008 election controversy.

According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

Wow. Mitt would never say that to President Packer.

Morley wrote:Richard. You have one link to a comment section of a four-month-old article and two other links that don't work. Besides that, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about this 2008 election controversy.

Sorry, when I copied them form the other thread, the links got corrupted. I think they're fixed now. If the mainstream media had thoroughly investigated Obama in 2008, I would accept that people knew about his background and didn't care when they voted for him. But the mainstream media didn't give him the proper scrutiny. Do you think Obama was telling the truth in this case.

I will discuss in other threads more recent examples of Obama lying.

Wait, I thought Obama was actually Muslim. Now you're saying he's Christian?

Anyway, this Rev. Wright guy is just following the time-honored profession of Old Testament prophets - criticizing the government, lambasting the citizenry, and prophesying doom.

Buffalo wrote:Wait, I thought Obama was actually Muslim. Now you're saying he's Christian?

I realize that you're not being serious, but no one denies that he attended Trinity United CC.

Anyway, this Rev. Wright guy is just following the time-honored profession of Old Testament prophets - criticizing the government, lambasting the citizenry, and prophesying doom.

The point is that Obama asserted that he never heard Wright make statements which Oprah heard and Obama heard (based on his comments to Wright the day before he announced his candidacy). You're trying to change the subject.

The original thread was viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23307&p=574296#p574296

Obama never heard Wright say those incendiary things, but he heard about them later on, and so distanced his campaign from the Reverend. Everyone whose IQ doesn't drop 30 points when Obama's name is mentioned is capable of understanding this.

JohnStuartMill wrote:Obama never heard Wright say those incendiary things, but he heard about them later on, and so distanced his campaign from the Reverend. Everyone whose IQ doesn't drop 30 points when Obama's name is mentioned is capable of understanding this.

How do you know that Obama never heard Wright say those incendiary things.

Todd Palin was a member of, and Sarah Palin (as Governor) sent a televised greeting to the Alaskan Independence Party, whose raison d'etre is to have Alaska secede from the Union. Joe Voegler, the party's founder, said "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Voegler disappeared in 1993, just before being scheduled to speak before the United Nations on Alaskan Independence. His sponsor at the U.N.? The government of Iran.

I was always amazed that the Palins got such little heat for their A.I.P. connections.

According to Public Policy Polling, 49% of Republicans believe that ACORN stole the 2012 election, That's the bad news. The GOOD news is that the number is down from 52% who thought ACORN stole the 2008 election.

25% of Republicans say they would like their state to secede from the Union. 19% are unsure.

Republicans are the most patriotic Americans, as long as they're in power. When they're not in power, then it's patriotic to rebel.