Tax Returns: How did Harry Reid get so rich?

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Tax Returns: How did Harry Reid get so rich?

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Through savings and wise ethical investments? No........

Try this thought experiment. Imagine that someone grows up in poverty, works his way through law school by holding the night shift as a Capitol Hill policeman, and spends all but two years of his career as a public servant. Now imagine that this person’s current salary — and he’s at the top of his game — is $193,400. You probably wouldn’t expect him to have millions in stocks, bonds, and real estate.

But, surprise, he does, if he’s our Senate majority leader, whose net worth is between 3 and 10 million dollars, according to OpenSecrets.org. When Harry Reid entered the Nevada legislature in 1982, his net worth was listed as between $1 million and $1.5 million “or more,” according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. So, since inquiring minds inquire, let’s try to figure out how Reid’s career in public service ended up being so lucrative. He hasn’t released his tax returns, which makes this an imperfect science, but looking at a few of his investments helps to show how he amassed his wealth.

In 2004, the senator made $700,000 off a land deal that was, to say the least, unorthodox. It started in 1998 when he bought a parcel of land with attorney Jay Brown, a close friend whose name has surfaced multiple times in organized-crime investigations and whom one retired FBI agent described as “always a person of interest.” Three years after the purchase, Reid transferred his portion of the property to Patrick Lane LLC, a holding company Brown controlled. But Reid kept putting the property on his financial disclosures, and when the company sold it in 2004, he profited from the deal — a deal on land that he didn’t technically own and that had nearly tripled in value in six years.

When his 2010 challenger Sharron Angle asked him in a debate how he had become so wealthy, he said, “I did a very good job investing.” Did he ever. On December 20, 2005, he invested $50,000 to $100,000 in the Dow Jones U.S. Energy Sector Fund (IYE), which closed that day at $29.15. The companies whose shares it held included ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, and ConocoPhillips. When he made a partial sale of his shares on August 19, 2008, during congressional recess, IYE closed at $41.82. Just a month later, on September 17, Reid was working to bring to the floor a bill that the Joint Committee on Taxation said would cost oil companies — including those in the fund — billions of dollars in taxes and regulatory fees. The bill passed a few days later, and by October 10, IYE’s shares had fallen by 42 percent, to $24.41, for a host of reasons. Savvy investing indeed.

Here’s another example: The Los Angeles Times reported in November 2006 that when Reid became Senate majority leader he committed to making earmark reform a priority, saying he’d work to keep congressmen from using federal dollars for pet projects in their districts. It was a good idea but an odd one for the senator to espouse. He had managed to get $18 million set aside to build a bridge across the Colorado River between Laughlin, Nev., and Bullhead City, Ariz., a project that wasn’t a priority for either state’s transportation agency. His ownership of 160 acres of land nearby that stood to appreciate considerably from the project had nothing to do with the decision, according to one of his aides. The property’s value has varied since then. On his financial-disclosure forms from 2006, it was valued at $250,000 to $500,000. Open Secrets now lists it as his most valuable asset, worth $1 million to $5 million as of 2010.

How Reid acquired that land is interesting, too. He put $10,000 into a pension fund his friend Clair Haycock controlled, to take over the 160-acre parcel at a price far below its assessed value. Six months later, Reid introduced legislation that would help Haycock’s industry, a move many observers said appeared to be a quid pro quo, though Reid and Haycock denied that the legislation was the result of a property deal.

We don’t know how much more money Reid has or how he made all of it. For that, we’d have to see his tax returns.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/314025/how-did-harry-reid-get-rich-betsy-woodruff


My my. Sounds like the the property scandals in Dallas, Texas in the 1970's and 80s which caused some prominent persons in the community to take much extended vacations in Europe.
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Logical conclusion? Mormon politicians are crooked.

Time to delve into Orrin Hatch's finances now.
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You make a good point Bc. Not releasing his tax returns does cast suspicion on Harry Reid. Gives him the air of impropriety. Ah, for the gentle breeze of financial transparency, huh?
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here's a weird quote from Romney today:
"I’ve paid at least 13 percent and if you add in addition the amount that goes to charity, why the number gets well above 20 percent."

wtf do his donations to his church have to do with anything?

this odd attempted conflation makes me think the 13% number must be some form of half truth. maybe he's including FICA, state & local, sales & property taxes in that. or maybe he's using some number other than his gross income as the denominator.

...whatever the case, the one thing we know for sure is that he is deeply, deeply embarassed about what is in those returns.
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I wondered about that too. It sounded odd to me.

The fact is, his tithing actually helped to reduce his tax bill.
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I think he's saying that he paid 20% of his after-tithing income in taxes.

For example, say his gross income was a cool $1 million, and say he gave away $400,000 to charity. Further, say his total tax bill was $120,000.

If that's the case, 12% of his gross income went to taxes, while 20% of his income net-of-charity went to taxes.

I have serious philosophical reservations about money donated to churches being tax-deductible. From my perspective, tithing to the LDS Church is no different than paying dues to a country club.

But having said that, lowering your tax bill because you give away most of your money is very different than lowering your tax bill because you belong to a privlaged class that gets a whole bunch of preferential tax breaks.
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Analytics wrote:I think he's saying that he paid 20% of his after-tithing income in taxes.

For example, say his gross income was a cool $1 million, and say he gave away $400,000 to charity. Further, say his total tax bill was $120,000.

If that's the case, 12% of his gross income went to taxes, while 20% of his income net-of-charity went to taxes.

I have serious philosophical reservations about money donated to churches being tax-deductible. From my perspective, tithing to the LDS Church is no different than paying dues to a country club.

But having said that, lowering your tax bill because you give away most of your money is very different than lowering your tax bill because you belong to a privlaged class that gets a whole bunch of preferential tax breaks.


a fair point.
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Nah, I'm betting he was pointing out how generous he is by adding tithing to taxes, and that he ended up with less than 80% of what he made and really deserves to keep.

Of course, if the system were fair, he would be paying at least 35%, instead of 13%. Then if he still wanted to give away 10% of gross to a rich corporation so it can build gaudy marble structures, that would be his prerogative, just as it is now. But his choice to give some away has no effect on the tax fairness debate, and shouldn't win him any brownie points when talking about taxes paid.

It's sort of like saying that yes, he paid only 13% in taxes, but if you add to that the 30% that he tossed into the volcano to appease the Norse gods and save the Icelanders, he paid out more than 40% of his income. There is just no reason to add the two.
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