Who Killed Bin Laden?

[_beastie]

Apparently republicans in NC and Ohio just don't know.

http://palmettopublicrecord.org/2012/09 ... bin-laden/

http://kydem.blogspot.com/2012/09/mitt- ... laden.html

[_Dr. Shades]

Oh, I don't know. That's just a little too difficult to believe.

[_beastie]

Oh, I don't know. That's just a little too difficult to believe.

You only wish.

[_beastie]

Here's the actual Ohio poll

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... H_9912.pdf

North Carolina poll

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... NC_910.pdf

Read it and weep.

Maybe it's the Fox effect.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/yet-anot ... -informed/

[_EAllusion]

Obama is riding a post-convention bounce that should be temporary and PPP tends to have a 2ish point Democrat lean in its numbers. So I wouldn't dance a victory jig yet for those states.

[_EAllusion]

The vast majority of voters - including those that vote both Republican and Democrat - are extremely uninformed and are motivated by factors other than a coherent ideology or knowledge of the facts. When people answer poll questions, most of them are just guessing based on their political identity and a vague sense of the issue based on how the question is worded. One of the consequences of this is that if you ask a partisan group about a set of facts that obviously favor "the other side" you can get a decent % of them to answer in hilariously wrong ways that flatter their preconceptions. This is just an example of this.

[_Drifting]

It can't have been Romney...

It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft," Romney told the newspaper.

But that's exactly what Romney did, according Selective Service records. He received his first deferment for "activity in study" in October 1965 while at Stanford.

He was granted the deferment even as some young Mormon men elsewhere were denied that same status, which became increasingly controversial in the late 1960s. The Mormon church, a strong supporter of American involvement in Vietnam, ultimately limited the number of church missionaries allowed to defer their military service using the religious exemption.

But as fighting in Vietnam raged, Romney spent two and a half years trying to win Mormon converts in France. About that same time, Romney's father would famously speak out against Vietnam, declaring that he had been "brainwashed" by military officials into supporting the conflict.

[_MeDotOrg]

Oh, I don't know. That's just a little too difficult to believe.

Ambrose Bierce said "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography."

I use to think he was joking, but as time goes on I'm not so sure.

I looked at the link for the Public Policy Poll.

Q 15 Who do you think deserves more credit for the killing of Osama Bin Laden: Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?

a, Barack Obama 63%
b. Mitt Romney 6%
c. Not Sure 31%

Now I can see some knee-jerk Obama hater not wanting to give credit to the President, but 31% not sure? Either their sampling is horribly wrong, or we have SERIOUS voter education problems.

In 1838 Lincoln said: "If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

Seriously, you know what I think is the greatest threat to American Democracy?

Ignorance.

[_Bond James Bond]

According to Republicans Mitt Romney killed Ho Chi Minh, Chairman Mao, and Adolf Hitler as well. Stalin is still at large which is why Romney is running for President.

[_beastie]

More insanity....in Ohio, 37% or republicans do not believe Obama was born in the US. (as of last March)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... E-0gY2PXik

-- In Tennessee only 33% of GOP primary voters think Barack Obama was born in the United States, while 45% do not.

-- In Georgia 40% of Republican primary voters think Obama was born in the United States, while 38% do not.

-- In Ohio 42% of Republican primary voters think Obama was born in the United States, while 37% do not.

How can we survive with this level of deliberate ignorance?