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Vice President Joe Biden accused Rep. Paul Ryan of putting two wars on the “credit card,” and then suggested he voted against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

“By the way, they talk about this great recession like it fell out of the sky–like, ‘Oh my goodness, where did it come from?’” Biden said. “It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, at the same time, put a prescription drug plan on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy.”

“I was there, I voted against them,” Biden continued. “I said, no, we can’t afford that.”

Then Sen. Biden voted for the Afghanistan resolution on Sept. 14, 2001 which authorized “the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.”

And on Oct. 11, 2002, Biden voted for a resolution authorizing unilateral military action in Iraq, according to the Washington Post.

http://freebeacon.com/biden-claims-he-voted-against-afghanistan-iraq-wars/

bcspace wrote:

Vice President Joe Biden accused Rep. Paul Ryan of putting two wars on the “credit card,” and then suggested he voted against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

“By the way, they talk about this great recession like it fell out of the sky–like, ‘Oh my goodness, where did it come from?’” Biden said. “It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, at the same time, put a prescription drug plan on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy.”

“I was there, I voted against them,” Biden continued. “I said, no, we can’t afford that.”

Then Sen. Biden voted for the Afghanistan resolution on Sept. 14, 2001 which authorized “the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.”

And on Oct. 11, 2002, Biden voted for a resolution authorizing unilateral military action in Iraq, according to the Washington Post.

http://freebeacon.com/biden-claims-he-voted-against-afghanistan-iraq-wars/

Claim: Ryan said "Obamacare" pays for abortions

The facts: The 2010 health care law does not use taxpayer funds for abortions except in the instances of rape, incest or danger to the mother's life — the same restrictions implemented by the Hyde Amendment on other federal health care programs. In March 2010, Obama signed an executive order to maintain "current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly created health insurance exchanges."

The same fact checkers listed Ryan's lies too. You don't care about these or mention them because you are biased hack,

bcspace wrote:

The same fact checkers listed Ryan's lies too. You don't care about these or mention them because you are biased hack,

I'd say there's a BIG difference between say Ryan claiming it was two weeks when it was actually nine days and Biden outright lying about easily remembered votes (which don't have any details, they're just up or down) on whether or not to go to war or to fund a war.

nine days wasn't my example now was it.,

bcspace wrote:

nine days wasn't my example now was it.,

No, but your example was too flawed to be of any worth so I provided you with an actual example. To claim that Obamacare funds abortions is false because it actually does fund abortions is not rational.

The same fact checkers listed Ryan's lies too. You don't care about these or mention them because you are biased hack,

Claim: Ryan said "Obamacare" pays for abortions

The facts: The 2010 health care law does not use taxpayer funds for abortions except in the instances of rape, incest or danger to the mother's life — the same restrictions implemented by the Hyde Amendment on other federal health care programs. In March 2010, Obama signed an executive order to maintain "current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly created health insurance exchanges."

The final Senate bill, H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, passed on December 24, 2009. The bill, which is now the law, violates the principles of the Hyde Amendment by allowing federal subsidies to be applied to insurance plans that cover abortion. Other provisions of the bill could be used to mandate abortion coverage by exchange plans and even require all insurance providers to cover abortion. Additionally, the Senate bill provides that if the Hyde Amendment ever fails to be renewed, federal funds may pay directly for abortion under health care reform.

It helps fund things like saving the life of the mother and you know it.

Why women have abortions

1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

Scenario: Profoundly poor woman is in the emergency room with a pregnancy gone bad and the mother's life is seriously in danger.

An emergency abortion is absolutely necessary.
Now imagine, she is told that neither the government, nor any church charity will help and she is handed a bill for $50,000. Or worse yet, the procedure is not even done because she cannot pay. She dies in pain and so does the fetus.

What a monster Obama is for suggesting that healthcare address this kind of thing. (not)

By the way, fetuses are not people--especially 3 month old fetuses.

No little ghost goes into the womb upon conception That is superstition (and brain waves do not equal selfhood either). You are free to believe such things but they should not be the basis of a law that affects the rest of us.

Droopy wrote:
Why is that relevant?

The claim that there is no eternal spirit being existing within the human body is metaphysical scientism. That is a philosophical claim, not a scientific one, and you are free to believe such things but that should not be the basis of a law that affects the rest of us.

Its people such as you, Tarski, who made the 20th century the blood-mad, death and nihilism drenched century that it was, and doubtless, you and those like you are not as yet finished in your various anointed ministration