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Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:34 pm
by _Kishkumen
An interesting look at a Happy Valley LDS reaction to Mitt's loss:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2012/11/sigh-but-at-least-my-conscience-is-clear.html

Daniel Peterson wrote:Barring some unimaginable miracle, the 2012 presidential race is over.



I find this deeply sad, because I genuinely do believe that President Obama has been a terrible president who has done — and will now continue to do — enormous damage to my country.



I’m sad, too, because one lesson that this election seems to present is that political conservatism of the kind in which I believe cannot now win a national election. If we were unable to knock off so demonstrably incompetent a president with such a terrible economic record, it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to defeat a stronger candidate at some point in the future.



Of course, the disgraceful complicity of the mainstream media in covering for the Obama administration on the fatal fiasco in Benghazi played something of a role in the last few weeks before the election. Had Americans heard the full story of that appalling catastrophe, I’m reasonably confident that Mr. Obama would have lost. But we conservatives have no basis for hoping that the media will lose their bias in the foreseeable future.



I take comfort in the thought that there are no permanent defeats in human history because, sadly, there are also no permanent victories. Even mighty empires eventually die, as do bloodthirsty dictators. But the grand cycles of human history are long, and I fear that the United States of America is solidly embarked on one — a cycle of reckless overspending, vastly overreaching government, dependency, economic anemia, interference with religious freedom, and moral-cultural decay — from which it won’t recover during my lifetime, and perhaps not even during that of my children. At a very minimum, a Supreme Court reshaped to a large extent in Mr. Obama’s image will hold sway over the country for decades to come.



Fortunately, my hope has never ultimately rested on shifting temporal things. And the eternal things, the things that really matter, remain. No government can touch them; they lie securely beyond the reach of the State.

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:38 pm
by _Kishkumen
A fellow named "Ryan" responds:

Ryan wrote:I personally don’t understand why Americans are so viscerally opposed to the idea of secession. The country is divided politically, why not geographically? Would it really be such a big deal? The change would primarily be paper-work.


WOW.

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:51 pm
by _Nomomo
Condi Rice pours cold water on Benghazi-Gate. http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/ ... ?mobile=wp

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:51 pm
by _Nightlion
Kishkumen wrote:A fellow named "Ryan" responds:

Ryan wrote:I personally don’t understand why Americans are so viscerally opposed to the idea of secession. The country is divided politically, why not geographically? Would it really be such a big deal? The change would primarily be paper-work.


WOW.


Why WOW? Sounds like Zion to me. :lol:

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:53 pm
by _lulu
Daniel Peterson wrote: I’m sad, too, because one lesson that this election seems to present is that political conservatism of the kind in which I believe cannot now win a national election. If we were unable to knock off so demonstrably incompetent a president with such a terrible economic record, it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to defeat a stronger candidate at some point in the future.


You could well be right here but I'm not mourning. The rise of the young, women and minorities, white baby boomer males are fading.



Daniel Peterson wrote:Of course, the disgraceful complicity of the mainstream media in covering for the Obama administration on the fatal fiasco in Benghazi played something of a role in the last few weeks before the election. Had Americans heard the full story of that appalling catastrophe, I’m reasonably confident that Mr. Obama would have lost. But we conservatives have no basis for hoping that the media will lose their bias in the foreseeable future.


Fox was horribly complicit. If I were you, I'd stop watching.

Daniel Peterson wrote:At a very minimum, a Supreme Court reshaped to a large extent in Mr. Obama’s image will hold sway over the country for decades to come.


Which conservative is DPC predicting will leave the court in the next 4 years? Otherwise the balance on the court will remain the same.

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:58 pm
by _Drifting
Is DCP saving 'Ryan' privately?

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:05 pm
by _Drifting
Daniel Peterson wrote:If we were unable to knock off so demonstrably incompetent a president with such a terrible economic record, it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to defeat a stronger candidate at some point in the future.


One is faced with the prospect of accepting that the majority of the American public would rather have a 'demonstrably incompetent' Democrat President, than Willard Mitt Romney.

Is that because of his Republican policies?
Or his religious beliefs and practices?
Or his own personality and behaviours?

One can but wonder...

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:05 pm
by _Nomomo
Kishkumen wrote:A fellow named "Ryan" responds:

Ryan wrote:I personally don’t understand why Americans are so viscerally opposed to the idea of secession. The country is divided politically, why not geographically? Would it really be such a big deal? The change would primarily be paper-work.


WOW.

ROTFLMFAO! The new theocratic nation of Deseret!

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:21 pm
by _lulu
Kishkumen wrote:A fellow named "Ryan" responds:

Ryan wrote:I personally don’t understand why Americans are so viscerally opposed to the idea of secession. The country is divided politically, why not geographically? Would it really be such a big deal? The change would primarily be paper-work.


WOW.

Nomomo wrote:ROTFLMFAO! The new theocratic nation of Deseret!


The new mainstreaming.

Re: Daniel Peterson on Romney's Loss

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:42 pm
by _madeleine
This, and the Facebook posts popping up, have me wondering what sort of fantasy world Mormons are living in. I mean seriously, comparing Obama to a blood thirsty dictator and going on about falling regimes?

cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo