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A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:27 pm
by _Droopy
A Nation of Thieves
Walter E. Williams
Edgar K. Browning, professor of economics at Texas A&M University, has a new book aptly titled "Stealing from Each Other." Its subtitle, "How the Welfare State Robs Americans of Money and Spirit," goes to the heart of what the book is about. The rise of equalitarian ideology has driven Americans to steal from one another. Browning explains that certain kinds of equality have been a cherished value in America. Equality under the law and, within reason, equality of opportunity is consistent with a free society. Equality of results is an anathema to a free society and within it lie the seeds of tyranny.
Browning entertains a discussion about when inequalities are just or unjust. For example, college graduates earn income higher than high-school dropouts. Some people prefer to work many hours and earn more than others who prefer to work fewer. Students who spend 25 or more hours a week on classroom preparation earn higher grades than students who spend five hours. Most would agree that these inequalities are just. There are other sources of inequalities that are unjust, such as: when incomes result from fraud, corruption, stealing, exploitation, oppression and the like. Such sources of inequality play an insignificant role in producing income inequality in America. Most economists agree that income is closely related to productivity.
Much of the justification for the welfare state is to reduce income inequality by making income transfers to the poor. Browning provides some statistics that might help us to evaluate the sincerity and truthfulness of this claim. In 2005, total federal, state and local government expenditures on 85 welfare programs were $620 billion. That's larger than national defense ($495 billion) or public education ($472 billion). The 2005 official poverty count was 37 million persons. That means welfare expenditures per poor person were $16,750, or $67,000 for a poor family of four.
Those figures understate poverty expenditures because poor people are recipients of non-welfare programs such as Social Security, Medicare, private charity and uncompensated medical care. The question that naturally arises is if we're spending enough to lift everyone out of poverty, why is there still poverty? The obvious answer is poor people are not receiving all the money being spent in their name. Non-poor people are getting the bulk of it.
Browning's concluding chapter tells us what the welfare state costs us. He acknowledges the non-economic costs such as infringements on liberty and strains on the political process, but focuses on the quantitative economic costs. The disincentive effects of Social Security have reduced the GDP by 10 percent, the federal income tax (as opposed to a proportional tax) by 9 percent and past deficits by 3.5 percent for a total of 22.5 percent. He guesses that welfare programs have reduced GDP by 2.5 percent. The overall effect of redistributionist policies has created incentives that have reduced GDP by a total of 25 percent. Without those, our GDP would be close to $18 trillion instead of $14 trillion.
So what's Browning's solution? First, he reminds us of the biblical admonition "Thou shalt not steal." Government income redistribution programs produce the same result as theft. In fact, that's what a thief does; he redistributes income. The difference between government and thievery is mostly a matter of legality. Browning's solution is captured in the title of his last chapter, "Just Say No," where he proposes, "The federal government shall not adopt any policies that transfer income (resources) from some Americans to other Americans." He agrees with James Madison, the father of our Constitution, who said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
For years I've used Professor Browning's and his colleague Mark A. Zupan's excellent textbook "Microeconomics: Price Theory and Applications" in my intermediate microeconomics class. "Stealing from Each Other" is a continuation of his academic excellence.
http://townhall.com/columnists/walterew ... page/full/
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:29 am
by _EAllusion
Droopy wrote:Browning's solution is captured in the title of his last chapter, "Just Say No," where he proposes, "The federal government shall not adopt any policies that transfer income (resources) from some Americans to other Americans."
That includes literally all government activity. If you think that, that can be debated, but you clearly aren't an anarcho-capitalist. If you aren't an anarchist, why are you posting articles implicitly defending anarchy? You can't advocate doubling defense spending and at the same time argue against all policy that involves wealth transfer of one set of Americans to another. You can't advocate defense spending at all, actually, but wanting it to increase by a trillion so dollars year is particularly ludicrous.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:45 pm
by _beastie
Droopy,
Did you ever return the money you once stole from the rest of us? Better include interest, too.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:28 pm
by _Gadianton
Browning entertains a discussion about when inequalities are just or unjust. For example, college graduates earn income higher than high-school dropouts.
This is deceiving. My boss is a high-school dropout and earns a whole lot more than the typical economics Phd, and in an industry that would be considered prestigious. It's true that education can lead to more money, and often does for legitimate reasons. But education is also tied to social class, and a whole system that often involves collusion with government, business, and personal friendship networks to ensure the success of upper-middle class people, often, at the expense of lower class people with equal intelligence and motivation. The problem I have with Sowell and other legitimate economists who promote right-wing doctrine isn't a misunderstanding of market philosophy, as in the case of Droopy and BCSpace, but the gross tendency to apply it only to their opposition, while ignoring or glossing over just how badly market inefficiency is embedded into the right-wing way of life.
For years I've used Professor Browning's and his colleague Mark A. Zupan's excellent textbook "Microeconomics: Price Theory and Applications" in my intermediate microeconomics class.
Just for the record, I looked up this text on Amazon. Lol. It's pretty easy reading. My intermediate micro class was the most difficult course I took in college, and that factors in advanced undergrad math and science classes. Nicholson's text is the standard, and orders of magnitude beyond this text in rigor. But as the reviews imply, this text should be great for business majors who just need the paper and aren't planning on doing research. And fantastic for Christians and tea-party right-wingers who just want to claim some affiliation, no matter how watered down, with a difficult subject that ties into their warped political and religious ideas.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:31 am
by _beastie
beastie wrote:Droopy,
Did you ever return the money you once stole from the rest of us? Better include interest, too.
Bumping so Droopy can answer the question.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:53 pm
by _Everybody Wang Chung
beastie wrote:beastie wrote:Droopy,
Did you ever return the money you once stole from the rest of us? Better include interest, too.
MCB,
Wait...Did Droopy steal money from you personally, or just the tax payers?
I guess either way, it doesn't bode well for me being able to collect on the $50 that Droopy owes me.
I'm starting to see a pattern here among conservatives. Running up massive debt and making promises that they have no intention of keeping.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:51 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:01 pm
by _beastie
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Wait...Did Droopy steal money from you personally, or just the tax payers?
I guess either way, it doesn't bode well for me being able to collect on the $50 that Droopy owes me.
I'm starting to see a pattern here among conservatives. Running up massive debt and making promises that they have no intention of keeping.
LOL
No, not from me, personally, but from the taxpayers. Droopy has admitted, in the past, receiving government assistance in his foolish youth, before he got "born-again" in terms of conversion to his current economic philosophy, such as it is. I was just wondering if that conversion was sincere enough to repay what he "stole".
Interestingly, he's not the only uber conservative to post on this board who has admitted, at least in the past, receiving government assistance.
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:02 pm
by _beastie
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:http://americanjesusblogs.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post.html
heh heh
Re: A Nation of Thieves
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:20 am
by _Droopy
EAllusion wrote:Droopy wrote:Browning's solution is captured in the title of his last chapter, "Just Say No," where he proposes, "The federal government shall not adopt any policies that transfer income (resources) from some Americans to other Americans."
That includes literally all government activity. If you think that, that can be debated, but you clearly aren't an anarcho-capitalist. If you aren't an anarchist, why are you posting articles implicitly defending anarchy? You can't advocate doubling defense spending and at the same time argue against all policy that involves wealth transfer of one set of Americans to another. You can't advocate defense spending at all, actually, but wanting it to increase by a trillion so dollars year is particularly ludicrous.
You might want to go back and read William's essay again, just for reading comprehension practice. The crux and core of the book is the welfare state, the "egalitarian mentality," and the concept of redistribution of wealth to right what is considered the collective moral wrong of poverty and income inequality.
Filling potholes does not seem to be a part of the thesis.
Not even a nice try, D, and neither I nor Williams are anarchists.