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Unemployed Americans Not Collecting Benefits Save Taxpayers

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:39 pm
by _Kevin Graham
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/0 ... 30840.html

WASHINGTON -- Though some politicians complain about unemployed people improperly collecting benefits, Americans laid off through no fault of their own actually save the United States government a lot of money when they don't collect benefits for which they are eligible.

In an eye-popping study for the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, economists found that the amount of unclaimed benefits dwarfs improper payments. In 2009, the government overpaid unemployment claims by $11 billion. But if everyone eligible for benefits had collected that year, the cost to states would have been much higher.

"The additional expenditures in 2009, toward the end of the recent recession, would have been a whopping $108 billion," wrote economists David L. Fuller, B. Ravikumar and Yuzhe Zhang in their recent paper. "On average, the unclaimed benefits are much larger than the more frequently discussed overpayments."

Improper payments grab national headlines, and Congress has held hearings on the issue.

"At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, it's outrageous to lose $17 billion worth of Unemployment Insurance dollars to overpayment and fraud," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) said in a statement this summer, citing an overpayment figure for 2010.

Congress is debating whether to reauthorize federal unemployment insurance programs, which currently provide up to 43 weeks of additional benefits for workers who use up their 26 weeks of state benefits. Democrats want to include the extended benefits as part of a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff," the moment at the end of the year when big spending cuts and tax hikes are scheduled to take effect, potentially tipping the economy into a recession.

But keeping the benefits would cost $30 billion, and some Republicans suspect extended unemployment insurance has made life too easy for the jobless, some of whom might be fraudsters.

"It's easier for them to stay on unemployment than it is to work," Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said last week. "I'm concerned about the high percentage of people who don’t even look for a job anymore. It's pretty amazing to me."

Asked by HuffPost if people game the system by collecting unemployment and other benefits for which they are not eligible, Hatch said they did. "There is some real gaming going on," he said, not citing evidence.

According to the National Employment Law Project, overpayments have accounted for 10.4 percent of all unemployment payments during the three-year period ending June 2011. Fraud represents less than 30 percent of overpayments, mostly occurring when claimants illegally keep their benefits after returning to work. Much of the rest of overpayments happen when employers fail to provide timely information about a worker's separation or when claimants fail to fulfill work-search requirements, according to NELP's analysis of Labor Department data.

Fuller, Ravikumar, and Zhang wrote that, on average, just 35 percent of the jobless have collected benefits over the past 22 years.

In some places, applying for benefits presents too much of a challenge. In Florida, for instance, tough new rules may discourage people from applying. The recipiency rate there has declined markedly since those new rules took effect last year.

In other cases, people without jobs are ineligible for benefits because they are new to the labor force or didn't work enough hours to qualify; some just don't apply. From 2007 through 2009, roughly 50 percent of people eligible for benefits successfully filed claims, a fraction Fuller and his co-authors say increased to a surprising 95 percent in 2011.

In the past year, as the government has trimmed benefits, the share of the unemployed population receiving compensation has fallen faster than the overall population of people without jobs. Of 12.3 million jobless, just 5 million received state or federal benefits in the week ending Nov. 24, according to the Labor Department. At the same time last year, more than 7 million of 13.6 million jobless received benefits. If Congress drops federal compensation, fewer than 1 in 3 unemployed Americans will be on the rolls at the start of next year.


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This information flies in the face of frequent Right Wing claims that folks are just too lazy to go back to work. In fact most of the fraud that does occur, however rare it may be, is when people continue to collect benefits after returning to work! Their envisioned scenarios of lazy moochers sitting around collecting benefits without wanting to work, simply because that is their preferred way of life, doesn't seem to come close to reality.

Re: Unemployed Americans Not Collecting Benefits Save Taxpay

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:07 pm
by _ajax18
Unemployment benefits are so much less than what people make, wouldn't people still go broke or lose their house trying to live on that. Kevin do you agree that if someone takes a low wage job after getting laid off that their unemployment benefits should be taken away because of that. To me that seems like part of the problem. It seems to me like the idea is to help people find a job that pays similar to what their skill set was. My impression is that jobs are available, but not jobs that pay very well. Are people permitted to pursue an alternative degree while collecting unemployment or does the government just cut them off and say, "Take out more loans to live on."

Re: Unemployed Americans Not Collecting Benefits Save Taxpay

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:40 am
by _EAllusion
I knew someone who lived off of unemployment benefits for over a year after being fired from a very good job due to his drug addiction issues. He was indeed a lazy moocher who didn't want to get back to work. It happens. The legitimate question is more about how often it happens, how are people responding incentives created by the unemployment system, can it be done more efficiently, and is that cost worth the program's benefits.

Re: Unemployed Americans Not Collecting Benefits Save Taxpay

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:18 am
by _Kevin Graham
A whole year on unemployment and that's it?

A better question would be how much of those benefits were paid for through the unemployment insurance that the employee paid into throughout his employment, and how much of it came out of our tax dollars. From what I understand it comes from the insurance benefits first and then from tax dollars after a certain point.

The more I look into this issue, which Right Wingers are in such a frenzy about, the less it seems to be in terms of how much we actually pay out of our taxes.

Re: Unemployed Americans Not Collecting Benefits Save Taxpay

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:40 am
by _ajax18
Kevin how much incentive do employers have not to fire people due to the cost of paying unemployment? Back when I was working lousy jobs, most seemed adamant about trying to be mean enough to get people to quit before they finally gave up and fired them. It works out better for the employer if the employee just quits because then they don't have to pay unemployment right?