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The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:41 am
by _bcspace
And probably all your posts and chats too:
The FBI has the e-mails of nearly all US citizens, including congressional members, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. Speaking to RT he warned that
the government can use information against anyone it wants.
One of the best mathematicians and code breakers in NSA history resigned in 2001 because he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the constitution.
He asserts, that the FBI has access to this data due to a powerful device Naris.
This year Binney received the Callaway award. The annual award was established to recognize those, who stand out for constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives.
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RT: It seems that the public is divided between those, who think that the government surveillance program violates their civil liberties, and those, who say: “I’ve nothing to hide. So, why should I care?” What do you say to those, who think that it shouldn't concern them.
WB: The problem is if they think they are not doing anything that’s wrong, they don’t get to define that. The central government does, the central government defines what is right and wrong and whether or not they target you. So, it’s not up to the individuals.
Even if they think they are [not] doing something wrong, if their position on something is against what the administration has, then they could easily become a target.
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WB: That’s pretty easy. They are violating the foundation of this entire country. Why this entire government was formed? It’s founded with the constitution and the rights were given to the people in the country under that constitution. They are in violation of that. And under executive order 13526, section 1.7 (governing classification) – you can not classify information to just cover up a crime, which this is- and that was signed by President Obama. Also President Bush signed it earlier executive order, a very similar one. If any of this comes into Supreme court and they rule it unconstitutional, then the entire house of cards of the government falls.
RT: What are the chances of that? What are the odds?
WB: The government is doing the best they can to try to keep it out of court.
And, of course, we are trying to do the best we can to get into court. So, we decided it deserves a ruling from the Supreme court. Ultimately the court is supposed to protect the constitution. All these people in the government take an oath to defend the constitution. And they are not living up to the oath of office.
http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/
Tinfoil or.....?
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:49 am
by _moksha
Well at least the posters on this board can feel safe with the new NSA facility in Bluffdale, Utah.
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:08 am
by _just me
My emails are too awesome to delete.
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:10 am
by _Quasimodo
bcspace wrote:And probably all your posts and chats too:
Tinfoil or.....?
You may be in deep do do, bc.
With all your anti-Obama posts I'm sure they have you on constant watch. You might want to have a surveillance camera over your front door so you can make a quick exit when they come knocking. Actually, I don't think they knock, they just break the door in.
I wonder how many employees it takes to monitor every email and board post. You will have to admit that this is creating many thousands of new jobs. Good for the economy.
If you can find a way to get messages out from your cell in Guantanamo, please let us know how you are doing.
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:58 am
by _ludwigm
Quasimodo wrote:bcspace wrote:And probably all your posts and chats too:
Tinfoil or.....?
If you can find a way to get messages out from your cell in Guantanamo, please let us know how you are doing.
For tips and hints please read
"The Charterhouse of Parma"!
"Fabrice del Dongo ... was condemned to a very long prison term ...
Fabrice ... is living happily because he has fallen in love with the commandant's daughter, Clélia Conti, who he can see from his prison window as she tends her caged birds. They fall in love, and after some time he persuades her to communicate with him by means of letters of the alphabet printed on sheets ripped from a book."If Guantanamo's commandant has no daughter, then dig with the bedpost. (c) Edmond Dantès.
by the way
Friedrich von der Trenck has escaped from a dozen different places by different ways.
His life was the basis of the novel The Two Trenks – Friedrich Trenk by Jókai Mór. The escapes are described point for point.
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Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:10 pm
by _Gadianton
What does it matter if they could just fabricate the emails anyway? The problem with technological tyranny is that it runs up against supply and demand. At some point, everyone is guilty, but you can't put everyone in jail. Look at what happened to LA's industry-leading red light photo enforcement enterprise earlier this year. Economics has more than one option of course, one is for the courts to question the integrity of evidence, another is to raise the bar on the implications of guilt.
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:59 pm
by _bcspace
With all your anti-Obama posts I'm sure they have you on constant watch. You might want to have a surveillance camera over your front door so you can make a quick exit when they come knocking. Actually, I don't think they knock, they just break the door in.
I am supremely confident you'll be "the first against the wall when the revolution comes".
What does it matter if they could just fabricate the emails anyway?
Indeed. The practice of planting evidence has gone on since well before this technological era.
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:22 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
bcspace wrote:Tinfoil or.....?
The FBI can't do that. However, the NSA takes a snapshot of the entire Internet twice a day. They can do that under national security auspices.
V/R
Dr. Cam
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:14 pm
by _cinepro
Cool. Now if they could just offer a way to recover lost emails after a system crash, they might actually make some money.
Wouldn't it be cool to get a letter from the NSA saying "Cinepro, we recently noticed that you may have lost all your emails from 2002-2005 from your Yahoo account due to a hard drive crash. For $49.99, we can send you a DVD with copies of these emails."
Re: The government has stored all your emails.
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:28 am
by _Quasimodo
bcspace wrote:With all your anti-Obama posts I'm sure they have you on constant watch. You might want to have a surveillance camera over your front door so you can make a quick exit when they come knocking. Actually, I don't think they knock, they just break the door in.
I am supremely confident you'll be "the first against the wall when the revolution comes".
Me? Nah. You know better than that. I'll be the one wearing a beret and a scraggly beard.
