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Republicans commit suicide.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cliff-standoff-boehner-works-to-wrangle-votes-for-plan-b-obama-threatens-veto/2012/12/20/d37cd8c6-4aa5-11e2-9a42-d1ce6d0ed278_story.html

I wonder what new party will emerge to compete with the Democrats. Maybe two. The Reformed Republicans and the Fundamentalist Republicans.

The biggest lie is that the Democrats actually want to avoid the "fiscal cliff". Why would they when it means higher taxes?

bcspace wrote:The biggest lie is that the Democrats actually want to avoid the "fiscal cliff". Why would they when it means higher taxes?

the fiscal cliff is inevitable...and arguably necessary.
The Democrats and Repubs are simply trying to position blame for the next political season.
Neither party currently has the political savy that Clinton had when he basically told the middle class "sorry, but there is no other way".
Sadly, Obama is as inept as the Congress.
We will go over the "cliff"...get mad...point fingers...and be fine anyway.
Though we are all without a rudder we still have oars

subgenius wrote:Neither party currently has the political savy that Clinton had when he basically told the middle class "sorry, but there is no other way".

Were you were watching Gingrich on FOX?

Politics is the art of the possible. In a democracy, compromise is inevitable. It is party ideology that is framing this debate, not a realistic compromise that is good for the country. All compromises are horrible to the extremists of either party. But when the Republican extremists refuse to go along with their own party, what hope have we for compromise?

The fiscal cliff was designed to be draconian enough to provide the incentive for members of both parties to come to the table to resolve their differences. This really is a case where a bad is better than no deal.

I keep thinking of the title of Trent Lott's autobiography: Herding Cats.

Quasimodo wrote:I wonder what new party will emerge to compete with the Democrats. Maybe two. The Reformed Republicans and the Fundamentalist Republicans.

I keep wondering if there isn't a possible centrist party composed of moderate Republican and blue dog Democrats. The fissures are certainly beginning to show in the GOP mantle.

MeDotOrg wrote:I keep wondering if there isn't a possible centrist party composed of moderate Republican and blue dog Democrats. The fissures are certainly beginning to show in the GOP mantle.

I can see that happening. Of course, having two conservative parties competing for essentially the same base will just about guarantee that neither will win an election for the next twenty years or so.