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the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:44 pm
by _beastie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/2 ... 47933.html

With no health insurance and not enough money for a doctor, Laura Johnson is long accustomed to treating her ailments with a self-written prescription: home remedies, prayer and denial.

Over decades, she made her living assisting elderly people in nursing homes in jobs that paid just above minimum wage and included no health benefits. So even as her feet swelled to such an extent that she could no longer stuff them into her shoes, and even as nausea, headaches and dizziness plagued her, she reached for the aspirin bottle or made do with a teaspoon of vinegar. She propped her feet up on pillows and hoped for relief.

"Before I got sick," she said, "I hadn't been to the doctor in 20 years."

After she collapsed last year and landed in in a local emergency room, doctors diagnosed her with congestive heart failure, high blood pressure and hypothyroid. They ordered her not to work. She arranged a Social Security disability benefit, and she enrolled in Medicaid, the government-furnished insurance program for the poor. She used her Medicaid card to secure needed prescription medications. Her ailments stabilized.

But this year, the state determined that the $819 a month she draws in disability payments exceed the allowable limit. By the federal government's reckoning, her $9,800 annual income made her officially poor. But under the standards set by Louisiana, she was too well off to receive Medicaid.


Governor Jindhal decided, on principle, to not participate in the expansion of Medicaid. This expansion would have covered people like Laura Johnson. Without that expansion, she does not qualify for Medicaid in Louisiana, and cannot afford private health insurance, and cannot afford her medication without insurance.

So what is the solution for people like Johnson, who have worked hard all their lives?

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:50 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Well, from what I gather from the Conservative world she should belong to a church. Then, she should bring her problem to the Pastor. Then the Pastor will supplicate donations from the congregation. Perhaps there will be a Doctor in the congregation that will treat her gratis, or at cost? If the donations don't cover the expense perhaps the Pastor will talk to some of his fellow Pastors to supplicate their congregations as a charitable Christian act of love and free will? They will all most certainly pray for her, though. That's important. She'll get lots of free, heartfelt prayers, and perhaps God will be moved to cure her of her ills? You know? As long as that doesn't impede His Plan for Her, whatever that is? And she better damn will show humility and gratitude, always giving God the credit for whatever does or doesn't happen because that's the way things are.

V/R
Dr. Cam

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:24 pm
by _beastie
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well, from what I gather from the Conservative world she should belong to a church. Then, she should bring her problem to the Pastor. Then the Pastor will supplicate donations from the congregation. Perhaps there will be a Doctor in the congregation that will treat her gratis, or at cost? If the donations don't cover the expense perhaps the Pastor will talk to some of his fellow Pastors to supplicate their congregations as a charitable Christian act of love and free will? They will all most certainly pray for her, though. That's important. She'll get lots of free, heartfelt prayers, and perhaps God will be moved to cure her of her ills? You know? As long as that doesn't impede His Plan for Her, whatever that is? And she better damn will show humility and gratitude, always giving God the credit for whatever does or doesn't happen because that's the way things are.

V/R
Dr. Cam


It does appear to me that this is all they have, in the end.

I suspect some of our posters who are so opposed to Obamacare have, in fact, benefited from Medicaid in the past, either directly or by Medicaid taking care of the medical expenses of their children. I wonder why they didn't just ask their ward to take care of, say, a heart operation for their child.

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:48 pm
by _moksha
I do not think the GOP owes anyone an explanation beyond, "I've got mine, Jack". Enlightened self interest let's them turn a blind eye on the needs of others - especially those less forunate.

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:09 pm
by _krose
Beastie, you just don't get it.

At least two things are more important than poor people in Louisiana getting health care: conservative principles (states' rights, self reliance, etc.) and Piyush Jindal's aspirations for national office.

It's about priorities.

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:46 am
by _beastie
Silence is the real answer, both on the part of our board conservatives who are so vocal in their criticisms and yet have not one single solution to this problem, as well on the part of republican leadership.

Of course, Romney did once offer his solution - the ER.

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:03 pm
by _beastie
Hmmm. Given the continued silence from our normally verbose conservative posters, I'm forced to conclude that the republican audience fairly summed it up: Let him (or her, as the case may be) die.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-die.html

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:58 pm
by _beastie
I started on a thread in the terrestrial forum asking if the LDS church helps pay for medical costs for its needy members.



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Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:06 am
by _moksha
beastie wrote:I'm forced to conclude that the republican audience fairly summed it up: Let him (or her, as the case may be) die.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-die.html


While some ardent Tea Party supports may say to let the uninsured die, the true Republican motto is, "Let them eat cake".

Re: the GOP principled refusal of medicaid expansion

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:41 pm
by _Brackite
Dear beastie,

When are the Democratic Politicians in California going to restore Dental Insurance for people over 21 who are on medi-cal?? The Democratic Party has controlled both the State Assembly and the State Senate in California since 1996. Dental insurance for people over 21 who are on medi-cal got eliminated over three and a half years ago there. Yet Democratic Jerry Brown has been Governor of California for about two years now, but the Dental Insurance for people over 21 who are on medi-cal has not been restored yet. When will it be restored there??