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Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander Joseph Smith

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:50 am
by _richardMdBorn
Romney didn't say this. But Obama said, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”. Should the president be making statements like this? According to many Muslims, ANY criticism of Muhammad is slander.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:39 pm
by _Jaybear
The President is not Muslim, and he didn't say "the future must not belong to those who "criticize" the prophet of Islam."

So what is the deal? I don't understand why you think this should bother anyone.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:21 pm
by _beastie
The entire quote:

The impulse towards intolerance and violence may initially be focused on the West, but over time it cannot be contained. The same impulses toward extremism are used to justify war between Sunni and Shia, between tribes and clans. It leads not to strength and prosperity but to chaos. In less than two years, we have seen largely peaceful protests bring more change to Muslim-majority countries than a decade of violence. And extremists understand this. Because they have nothing to offer to improve the lives of people, violence is their only way to stay relevant. They don’t build; they only destroy.

It is time to leave the call of violence and the politics of division behind. On so many issues, we face a choice between the promise of the future, or the prisons of the past. And we cannot afford to get it wrong. We must seize this moment. And America stands ready to work with all who are willing to embrace a better future.

The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt -- it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, "Muslims, Christians, we are one." The future must not belong to those who bully women -- it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. (Applause.)

The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources -- it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. (Applause.)


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... l-assembly

This was a response to the anti-Mohammed film that was triggering potentially dangerous riots in the mid-east.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:53 pm
by _Quasimodo
richardMdBorn wrote:Romney didn't say this. But Obama said, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”. Should the president be making statements like this? According to many Muslims, ANY criticism of Muhammad is slander.


Hilarious! You slander Mitt Romney by giving a false quote and then slander Obama by taking his quote totally out of context.

I suspect you think you are being clever. Personally, I think you are being a bit of a twit.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:06 am
by _krose
The president could have easily included the pope and the LDS prophet in his list, and it would not have been out of place.

But as it happens, the video about Muhammed was occupying the international stage at the time, not any other religious intolerance.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:26 am
by _beastie
Quasimodo wrote:
richardMdBorn wrote:Romney didn't say this. But Obama said, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”. Should the president be making statements like this? According to many Muslims, ANY criticism of Muhammad is slander.


Hilarious! You slander Mitt Romney by giving a false quote and then slander Obama by taking his quote totally out of context.

I suspect you think you are being clever. Personally, I think you are being a bit of a twit.


I doubt Richard knew how much the missing context mattered. The right-wing entertainment media complex likely didn't alert its listeners/readers that crucial context was missing. If you google the phrase Richard quoted, it's all over the right-wing entertainment media complex.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:31 am
by _moksha
Quasimodo wrote:
Hilarious! You slander Mitt Romney by giving a false quote and then slander Obama by taking his quote totally out of context.

I suspect you think you are being clever. Personally, I think you are being a bit of a twit.


That sounds a bit harsh. Perhaps he was simply repeating some misinformation he heard at the Fox Advocacy Group. Some of their listeners actually believe that stuff, while others simply repeat it because it suits their purpose.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:34 am
by _Quasimodo
beastie wrote:I doubt Richard knew how much the missing context mattered. The right-wing entertainment media complex likely didn't alert its listeners/readers that crucial context was missing. If you google the phrase Richard quoted, it's all over the right-wing entertainment media complex.


I doubt Richard cared much if his quote portrayed reality or not. Just that it supported his point of view. If he was concerned about being truthful, he could have easily checked before posting.

I think that is my biggest complaint with right wing propaganda. Truth is secondary to dogma. I think that position is held by the very religious, as well.

Re: Romney: The future must not belong to those who slander

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:38 am
by _Quasimodo
moksha wrote:
That sounds a bit harsh. Perhaps he was simply repeating some misinformation he heard at the Fox Advocacy Group. Some of their listeners actually believe that stuff, while others simply repeat it because it suits their purpose.


Perhaps I was being harsh. Truthfully, I can only claim he is a twit for believing the Fox Advocacy Group.