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When the Left liked guns

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:28 am
by _bcspace
How do you know the left is firmly in charge of the political and cultural establishment in America?

Because now they want to ban guns.

As a former leftist revolutionary during my misguided youth, I recall with crystal clarity when the radical left of the 1960s brazenly bore arms in public, boasted about firearms training, stockpiled arms and ammo and even engaged in armed violence against police.

The Black Panther Party, originally, by the way, the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a case in point. The organization, led by Bobby Seale and Huey Newton, were often referred to in the ’60s as “the vanguard of the revolution.”

They were known for ambushing police. Newton himself, after being freed from prison for the killing of Oakland police officer John Frey, boasted of murdering him. James Forman, Black Panther Party “minister of foreign affairs,” called for blowing up police stations, killing Southern governors and mayors and murdering 500 cops. They took full advantage of the Second Amendment and California laws that permitted the carrying of loaded rifles and shotguns in public, as long as they were not concealed or pointed at anyone. In May 1967, the Panthers literally invaded, fully armed, the State Assembly of the California Legislature. Later they organized an armed march on the state Capitol when lawmakers introduced legislation banning the carrying of loaded weapons in public.

All of this made them the heroes of the left. So-called “civil rights attorneys” like Charles Garry and William Kunstler and the American Civil Liberties Union defended them for their brazen calls for armed struggle, armed attacks and armed intimidation tactics.

But that was then, and this is now.

Today, the left rules.

And now the left wants to disarm the citizenry – and there is nary a dissenter among its ranks.

Do you get the picture
?

The revolutionary left of the 1960s and 1970s – including Barack Obama pals like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn – saw armed struggle as a means to an end. The end for them was control of the power structure. Now they have achieved it.

It wasn’t just a handful of radicals who took this position back then. Tom Hayden, who later married Jane Fonda and was elected to the California Assembly once invaded by the Black Panthers, was among those who preached about the absolute need for bearing arms and achieving some degree of expertise in their use.

These folks were the darlings and heroes and poster children of liberals everywhere.

The only difference between now and then is who is running things.

Just as V.I. Lenin sold the Bolsheviks on armed struggle, so, too, he was quick to confiscate the guns when he achieved tyrannical power in the Soviet Union.

It’s simply history repeating itself.

Those radicals of the ’60s and ’70s – and I regretfully and penitently admit to being one of them – literally blazed the trail for Barack Obama and the new, new left.

The New Left, as it was known back then, worshipped firearms.

The new, new left does, too – as long as it maintains a monopoly on them and state power
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Make no mistake about it: There are many misguided liberals today who really believe that banning guns will reduce violence in our society. But the hard left that steers their ship of state knows better. Now it’s about control – total control – and the elimination of all potential opposition.

I’m telling you this as someone who has been on both sides of the fence.

I was there. I believed. I saw. I witnessed.

Today I know better. I recognize we live in an imperfect society – like all worldly, fallen institutions and cultures.

And that’s why we need to defend ourselves from evil people – people like those who seek totalitarian control over our country and a monopoly on armed force. They will do almost anything to achieve it.

Don’t ever let them have it.

When the Left liked guns


And that illustrates why the Left are Regressives. Believe it. I too was there and witnessed.

Re: When the Left liked guns

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:04 pm
by _MeDotOrg
Joseph Farrah is...how shall I put this delicately?...a paranoid moron.

Let's deconstruct his thesis: The 'Left' (monolithic and all inclusive), which loved guns in the 1960's when they were out of power, is now 'in power' and therefore wants to 'ban guns'.

'The left', in Mr. Farrah's thesis, runs the gamut from the Black Panthers to Tom Hayden. He does not name any liberals. No Eugene McCarthy or George McGovern, or Robert Kennedy. No Joan Baez, no Martin Luther King, Daniel and Phillip Berrigan or Thomas Merton, nothing of the Pacifist or Non-Violent left that comprised the majority of the movement during this time. As someone who was in college and politically involved at the time, I can assure you that the vast majority of the anti-war, civil-rights propounding left did not own, or want to own, firearms for political purposes. Yes, there were a few, but they were nowhere near the majority. To paint 'the left' as a single monolithic block of gun-toting violent revolutionaries is simply a falsehood.

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(Shown above: Radical leftist revolutionaries from the 60's.)

Saying that 'The Left' or 'The New Left' was only comprised of gun-toting Black Panthers and SDS revolutionaries is like saying that 'The Right' nowadays is only composed of Neo-Nazis and gun worshiping Militias.

And now the left wants to disarm the citizenry – and there is nary a dissenter among its ranks.
Banning assault rifles and high capacity magazines is 'disarming the citizenry?' We will still have more guns in private hands that any other nation on earth!
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The revolutionary left of the 1960s and 1970s – including Barack Obama pals like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn – saw armed struggle as a means to an end. The end for them was control of the power structure. Now they have achieved it.


For the sake of argument, let's say that Mr. Farrah is correct in characterizing Barack Obama as the political offspring of Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorhn. (Although the idea of Bill Ayers or Bernadine Dohrn bailing out banks is laughable).

If so, Mr. Farrah unwittingly blows a hole in his own argument: namely, that guns are necessary to gain power in the United States. For if he is correct, the left came to power by the ballot box and not the gun.

The democratic process worked.

But what if it didn't work for you? Clearly if you want to gain power in the United States, you have to control the electoral process, and find someway to make sure that the majority does not rule.

Who is doing that?

Huffington Post wrote:Republicans have a new strategy for 2016: Change the rules of presidential elections in order to swing the Electoral College in the GOP's favor.

On Wednesday, Virginia's Republican-controlled legislature became one of the first to advance a bill that would allocate electoral votes by congressional district. Last week, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus endorsed pushing through similar proposals in other states with Republican legislative majorities.

The strategy would have states alter the way they translate individual votes into electors -- thereby giving Republican candidates an advantage. Had the 2012 election been apportioned in every state according to these new Republican plans, Romney would have led Obama by at least 11 electoral votes. Here's how:

In the 2012 election, President Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney by 126 electoral votes.

Within the 26 states that Obama took, Romney won a plurality of votes in 99 congressional districts.

Obama, on the other hand, won only 32 congressional districts in red states.

Each state has two more electoral votes than congressional districts. The most common Republican proposal -- under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan -- follows the same rules already in effect in Maine and Nebraska, which allocate the two additional votes to the winner of the statewide popular vote.

This is what the 2012 electoral map would have looked like had each state apportioned its electors using these rules:

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/electoral-votes-by-cd-map-4_1.png

Electoral vote: Romney 273 / Obama 262.

Each state has two more electoral votes than congressional districts. The most common Republican proposal -- under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan -- follows the same rules already in effect in Maine and Nebraska, which allocate the two additional votes to the winner of the statewide popular vote.

The legislation introduced in Virginia, however, goes even further and proposes to allocate the two remaining votes not to the candidate who wins the state-wide popular vote, but to the candidate who wins the majority of congressional districts. This would give Republicans an even bigger advantage in that state.

Re: When the Left liked guns

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:45 am
by _Tarski
MeDotOrg wrote:snip


BC won't read a bit of what you wrote. But don't worry; he knows he is being dishonest.
He will say that the sixties was all peace loving hippies if it serves his immediate purpose and then say it was all armed revolutionaries in the next minute as his dishonest rhetorical needs change.

What do you call someone who is only concerned to use the word "truth" as a rhetorical conceit but really has no need for the truth per se. That's what BC is.

He is so one-sided that it make me wonder if he is suffering from hemineglect:

"Hemineglect, also known as unilateral neglect, hemispatial neglect or spatial neglect, is is a common and disabling condition following brain damage in which patients fail to be aware of items to one side of space. Neglect is most prominent and long-lasting after damage to the right hemisphere of the human brain, particularly following a stroke. Such individuals with right-sided brain damage often fail to be aware of objects to their left, demonstrating neglect of leftward items." (or visa versa)

Re: When the Left liked guns

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:19 pm
by _ludwigm
L.A. police look for ex-cop suspected in shootings

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/la ... ?hpt=us_c1

Los Angeles (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles cop who had allegedly warned he would target law enforcement in retribution for being fired is now suspected of shooting three officers early Thursday, killing one, authorities said.

The shootings -- which come a day after Irvine, California, police named Christopher Jordan Dorner as the suspect in a double slaying there Sunday -- sparked a huge manhunt in Southern California.

The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for the onetime officer and Navy lieutenant.

Dorner, 33, is suspected of slightly wounding a Los Angeles police officer in Corona, California, early Thursday as the officer was exiting the freeway in that Riverside County town, according to Los Angeles police.

About an hour later, arou ...

... stupid americans ...

Re: When the Left liked guns

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:49 am
by _Brackite
ludwigm wrote:L.A. police look for ex-cop suspected in shootings

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/la ... ?hpt=us_c1

Los Angeles (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles cop who had allegedly warned he would target law enforcement in retribution for being fired is now suspected of shooting three officers early Thursday, killing one, authorities said.

The shootings -- which come a day after Irvine, California, police named Christopher Jordan Dorner as the suspect in a double slaying there Sunday -- sparked a huge manhunt in Southern California.

The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for the onetime officer and Navy lieutenant.

...


Authorities search door-to-door in Big Bear in hunt for former cop:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... inues.html

Re: When the Left liked guns

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:54 am
by _moksha
Brackite wrote:
Authorities search door-to-door in Big Bear in hunt for former cop:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... inues.html


Just remember, his actions stem more from Mario and Donkey Kong than from any military grade weapons he may incidentally be using and in no way reflects his time at Southern Utah University.