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Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 am
by _moksha
Here is an interesting idea from Elder Card:
"But on economic matters, I’m a committed communitarian. I regard the Soviet Union as simply state monopoly capitalism. It was run the way the United States would be if Microsoft owned everything. Real communism has never been tried! I would like to see government controls expanded, laws that allow capitalism to not reward the most rapacious, exploitative behavior. I believe government has a strong role to protect us from capitalism. I’m ashamed of our society for how it treats the poor. One of the deep problems in Mormon society is that really for the last 75 years Mormons have embraced capitalism to a shocking degree.”
That shocking degree part sounds intriguing.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:21 am
by _ajax18
I wonder if he pays his tithing on the gross or the net.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:34 pm
by _cinepro
I regard the Soviet Union as simply state monopoly capitalism. It was run the way the United States would be if Microsoft owned everything. Real communism has never been tried!
Capitalism without competition isn't capitalism.
And I suspect he knows about as much about communism as he does about capitalism.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:47 am
by _Res Ipsa
Well, I think he got one thing right: real communism (workers own the means of production) has never been tried, at least on any significant scale. That part about the state withering away never seems to actually happen. I think markets can do some things very well, and we should rely on them as much as we can for the things they do well. They don't do everything well, but this notion of Government always good, Capitalism always bad (or the other way around) is the kind of black and white thinking that is counterproductive to addressing the country's problems.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:18 am
by _moksha
Card's idea that we need protection from unbridled capitalism rings true. Without some entity able to intervene, capitalism seems forever poised to devour both us and itself.
Introducing the new breakfast cereal Capital O's - pour milk on them and they eat themselves.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:50 pm
by _krose
Brad Hudson wrote:... this notion of Government always good, Capitalism always bad (or the other way around) is the kind of black and white thinking that is counterproductive to addressing the country's problems.
I don't think I've ever heard that notion expressed by an American. I do hear the converse plenty.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:16 pm
by _bcspace
As you can see, Card is an apostate of the highest order as scripture and doctrine show God to be the ultimate Capitalist.
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:08 am
by _moksha
bcspace wrote:... as scripture and doctrine show God to be the ultimate Capitalist.
Here's hoping the Mall yields a multitude of dividends.

Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:41 pm
by _Bhodi
bcspace wrote:As you can see, Card is an apostate of the highest order as scripture and doctrine show God to be the ultimate Capitalist.
I can't tell about sarcasm on the internet, are you being serious?
Re: Elder O. Scott Card on Government
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:27 pm
by _MeDotOrg
bcspace wrote:As you can see, Card is an apostate of the highest order as scripture and doctrine show God to be the ultimate Capitalist.
I always thought (religiously speaking) God was hoping for a monopoly.
Okay, I'll bite: How does scripture and doctrine show God to be the ultimate Capitalist?