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Presidents and civil liberties interview

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:30 pm
by _EAllusion
Here's a good interview from Radley Balko with Gene Healy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/the-agitator

Re: Presidents and civil liberties interview

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:50 pm
by _Brackite
From That Article:

Let's turn to Obama. Many progressives and libertarians have been disappointed with his civil liberties record after four years. Where do you think he ranks among recent presidents? Among all presidents?

Among recent presidents? On civil liberties, the differences with Bush are negligible. There’s been “a powerful continuity” between “43” and “44” says Gen. Michael Hayden, who as 43’s NSA head ran the Bush administration’s illegal wiretapping program.

The New Republic’s legal affairs editor, Jeffrey Rosen, predicted in early 2008 that, if elected, Obama would be “our first civil libertarian president.” No such luck. As I point out in my new ebook:

In several key areas, “44” has gone even further than “43” in pushing extravagant claims of executive power. George W. Bush never publicly asserted a presidential right to summarily execute American citizens abroad, far from any battlefield. President Obama both claims that authority and has exercised it: in the September 2011 Predator strike on New Mexico-born Anwar al-Awlaki.

As far as where Obama fits in among all presidents in American history, I wouldn’t hazard a guess while we’re this close to the action. I don’t have the same confidence in my judgment this early that the presidential scholars who participated in the 2010 Siena Research Institute survey seem to have. Just 18 months into his first term, they decided Barack Obama’s already the 15th best president we’ve ever had.

But one of Obama’s main legacies has been ratifying George W. Bush’s legacy of permanent war and permanently enhanced federal power.


I guess this means that President Obama is not truly a "strong progressive" after all.

Re: Presidents and civil liberties interview

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:32 am
by _EAllusion
Obama has an appalling civil rights record. This is especially disappointing given that he ran heavily on a pro civil rights message in the 2008 Democratic primary and had uncommon pro civil rights credentials for a presidential candidate. Ditto for expansion of executive power. If you consider civil rights support an important aspect of being a progressive, which is historically debatable, then it's hard to argue he's a good progressive.