and the facts are a clearly a condemnation....so, why is there even a cause for debate?
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Granted, I understand it can be hard to formulate good answers when you're on the spot, but when it comes to issues like this, I would hope for better than that!
Who is this woman, and who are the men cross examining her?
subgenius wrote:... i challenge anyone to conclude otherwise.
Assuming she really does speak for Planned Parenthood, this is a simple challenge. It's pretty clear this is a case where some men are trying to trap someone by concocting a wild scenario that just doesn't happen, and then forcing her to answer. She really doesn't want to play their game.
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
Granted, I understand it can be hard to formulate good answers when you're on the spot, but when it comes to issues like this, I would hope for better than that!
I can't imagine how she was "on the spot", surely she realized what the topic of conversation was...that bill was fairly specific...and as the Congress man stated..."you would not be here otherwise".
The more alarming aspect is how little attention either of these videos has ever received.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
krose wrote:Who is this woman, and who are the men cross examining her?
subgenius wrote:... i challenge anyone to conclude otherwise.
Assuming she really does speak for Planned Parenthood, this is a simple challenge. It's pretty clear this is a case where some men are trying to trap someone by concocting a wild scenario that just doesn't happen, and then forcing her to answer. She really doesn't want to play their game.
Partial-Birth Abortion is a procedure in which the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?
That's just a Left wing facade to cover up the sexualization of children and Planned Parenthood knows that the sexualization of children increases unwanted pregnancies despite the use of and education about birth control and such pregnancies are a cash cow for their abortion operation.
krose wrote:By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?
false dichotomy. I do want to decrease unwanted pregnancies...but use/availability of birth control may not accomplish that...besides i am not a big fan of pharmaceutical salvation.
However, that does not mean i am anti-birth control. I think the correlation you are claiming is difficult to prove and has more facets of influence.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
krose wrote:By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?
How could access to birth control be any easier or widespread than it is today? If someone has the financial, mental and physical resources to buy a Twix bar, they can similarly get birth control.
subgenius wrote:It is not a wild scenario...it happens quite often wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
This is your evidence for "quite often"? One rogue doctor who performed illegal late-term abortions, and who is currently being prosecuted for it? The guy who was denied membership in the National Abortion Federation and condemned by Planned Parenthood? Right.
blah blah partial birth abortion blah blah
So now you're going down that road?
There is no medical procedure known as "partial birth abortion." That's a political term (pushed by nut jobs like Rick Man-On-Dog Santorum) created to misrepresent an extremely rare medical procedure called "dilation and extraction."
