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..of post-birth abortion a.k.a. murder.

The video is all too revealing about Planned Parenthood's endorsement of murder...plain and simple and i challenge anyone to conclude otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEv1afKa ... e=youtu.be

and the facts are a clearly a condemnation....so, why is there even a cause for debate?

Here's another one. I heard she said this, and it's here on YouTube, but I still can't believe she said it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTjb9rzyEo

Granted, I understand it can be hard to formulate good answers when you're on the spot, but when it comes to issues like this, I would hope for better than that!

Who is this woman, and who are the men cross examining her?

subgenius wrote:... i challenge anyone to conclude otherwise.

Assuming she really does speak for Planned Parenthood, this is a simple challenge. It's pretty clear this is a case where some men are trying to trap someone by concocting a wild scenario that just doesn't happen, and then forcing her to answer. She really doesn't want to play their game.

cinepro wrote:Here's another one. I heard she said this, and it's here on YouTube, but I still can't believe she said it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTjb9rzyEo

Granted, I understand it can be hard to formulate good answers when you're on the spot, but when it comes to issues like this, I would hope for better than that!

I can't imagine how she was "on the spot", surely she realized what the topic of conversation was...that bill was fairly specific...and as the Congress man stated..."you would not be here otherwise".

The more alarming aspect is how little attention either of these videos has ever received.

By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?

krose wrote:Who is this woman, and who are the men cross examining her?

subgenius wrote:... i challenge anyone to conclude otherwise.

Assuming she really does speak for Planned Parenthood, this is a simple challenge. It's pretty clear this is a case where some men are trying to trap someone by concocting a wild scenario that just doesn't happen, and then forcing her to answer. She really doesn't want to play their game.

It is not a wild scenario...it happens quite often
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

another source for video from OP - the video is a paid lobbyist from Planned Parenthood appearing before Florida legislature.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013 ... h-Abortion

perhaps you find the partial birth abortion more to your liking:
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/pbafacts.html

Partial-Birth Abortion is a procedure in which the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.

By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?

That's just a Left wing facade to cover up the sexualization of children and Planned Parenthood knows that the sexualization of children increases unwanted pregnancies despite the use of and education about birth control and such pregnancies are a cash cow for their abortion operation.

krose wrote:By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?

false dichotomy.
I do want to decrease unwanted pregnancies...but use/availability of birth control may not accomplish that...besides i am not a big fan of pharmaceutical salvation.

However, that does not mean i am anti-birth control. I think the correlation you are claiming is difficult to prove and has more facets of influence.

krose wrote:By the way, can I assume you are on board with those of us who want to decrease unwanted pregnancies (the real problem) by pushing for the widespread use and easy availability of effective birth control?

How could access to birth control be any easier or widespread than it is today? If someone has the financial, mental and physical resources to buy a Twix bar, they can similarly get birth control.

subgenius wrote:It is not a wild scenario...it happens quite often
wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

This is your evidence for "quite often"? One rogue doctor who performed illegal late-term abortions, and who is currently being prosecuted for it? The guy who was denied membership in the National Abortion Federation and condemned by Planned Parenthood? Right.

blah blah partial birth abortion blah blah

So now you're going down that road?

There is no medical procedure known as "partial birth abortion." That's a political term (pushed by nut jobs like Rick Man-On-Dog Santorum) created to misrepresent an extremely rare medical procedure called "dilation and extraction."

Here is a more accurate explanation:
http://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin