More racial discrimination ... (emergency exit)

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_ludwigm
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More racial discrimination ... (emergency exit)

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Spanner wrote:Apparently they disbanded the Samoan language wards and told people to use translators if giving talks and the like. This would be a huge change for the Samoan members used to worshiping in their own language, singing their own hymns and the like.

It really makes no sense, since a huge proportion of the membership are Samoan. If not most of them. They disbanded 3 or 4 wards; you would think they would have enough members for at least one Samoan ward. Not sure of the situation in Australia, but the only real area of membership growth is among Pacific islanders here in NZ. There are a number of Samoan language wards in Wellington and Auckland.
Yoda wrote:That does seem really odd. How is that any different than the Spanish wards and branches we have here? (NC) I don't understand the local leaders' call on this one.
I will help You. I DO understand.

Church leaders wrote:
“Church leaders sought to unify and strengthen a growing multi-cultural church membership by organising congregations according to geographic area rather than language or ethnicity,” Elder James said.
The keyword is UNIFY. One size fits all.

Church leaders wrote:
“The 2007 decision was not to prohibit the use of the language but to deliver church services in a multi-cultural environment in one language and provide a translation.”
This makes
(1) the church services last two times longer
- or -
(2) the church services having half content
--- both would be a step forward

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MY private association (as usual, I may err):

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LDS Pacific Area President Elder James J. Hamula and Elder Fata.

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Local Elders President Fa’alogo and Elder Fa’amoana

The Area President Elder James J. Hamula has triple name, with middle initial (a requirement to become leader above a certain level)

Poor Elder Fata, President Fa’alogo and Elder Fa’amoana...
One name only... even JS and BY have had two...
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Re: More racial discrimination ... (emergency exit)

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ludwigm wrote:I will help You. I DO understand.

Church leaders wrote:
“Church leaders sought to unify and strengthen a growing multi-cultural church membership by organising congregations according to geographic area rather than language or ethnicity,” Elder James said.
The keyword is UNIFY. One size fits all.

Church leaders wrote:
“The 2007 decision was not to prohibit the use of the language but to deliver church services in a multi-cultural environment in one language and provide a translation.”
This makes
(1) the church services last two times longer
- or -
(2) the church services having half content
--- both would be a step forward

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Interesting that they do not seem to be phasing out the ethnic wards in Utah.

MY private association (as usual, I may err):

Image
LDS Pacific Area President Elder James J. Hamula and Elder Fata.

Image
Local Elders President Fa’alogo and Elder Fa’amoana

The Area President Elder James J. Hamula has triple name, with middle initial (a requirement to become leader above a certain level)

Poor Elder Fata, President Fa’alogo and Elder Fa’amoana...
One name only... even JS and BY have had two...


The funny thing is that the Lamanite Elders probably actually have 3-6 names/initials in addition to their surname. If they included them all it might look like they mocking the custom among the senior leaders.

One of my little sisters has 9 'names', another has 7. Two middle names is pretty much the absolute minimum for Pacific Lamanites :lol:
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