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[_ldsfaqs]

Just Me..... You're mixing arguments.

Birth Control is an umbrella word for "anything", not simply the birth control pill or similar.
More so, women outside of marriage who aren't usually on birth control, simply have men use a condom, which guess what also is birth control.

Maybe you aren't aware, but birth control is a CHOICE.... It's not a "medical" or "health" issue that insurance should cover.
Insurance started covering it because everyone started using the pill.

Further, I was married for 12 years..... We had 3 kids, every one was planned save the last which we willingly took the risk.
We never used birth control in ANY form save of few times primarily in the first few years. Our birth control was the woman's natural fertilization cycle.
It's easy to not need.

Sorry, but you're the "bigot". I live in the real world, and love and treat woman as a Priestess and equal.
A company as an individual has every right to set it's own standards..... as long as there is no inequality. Sex is a choice. Thus, you can choose to buy your OWN birth control if that also is your choice. A company should not be forced to pay for YOUR "personal" and PRIVATE choices.

[_Bazooka]

Ldsfaqs

Did your wife of 12 years not like being treated as a Priestess and an equal?

[_MeDotOrg]

Some likely 95% of those who use birth control use it because they are sluts.

I'm curious: What sexual behavior makes a woman a 'slut''?

Think of birth control in the context of human evolution. Travel back in time 2,000 years, which is the blink of an eye in evolutionary terms. Human lifespans were 20-35 years.

From 500 to 300 years ago, the European life expectancy grew to between 30 and 40 years.

In the last 200-300 years, life expectancy has doubled.

But our biology is still wired for evolutionary conditions that have only just ceased to exist. Given human lifespan and infant mortality rates, it makes perfect evolutionary sense for humans to procreate as soon as possible after puberty. Now life expectancy and infant mortality have dramatically dropped, we ask ourselves to change behavior that we have been wired to do for virtually all of our evolutionary history.

Our biological urges to procreate early and often existed way before man ever conceived of God and religion. You can say that your religion prohibits you from sanctioning behavior that requires birth control, but your religion flies in the face of what our bodies have been physiologically engineered to for countless milllennia.

Mankind is still hardwired for tremendous aggression, but we now have symbolic and stylized combat: we call our athletes 'gladiators' and refer to playing areas as 'the field of battle'.

You can have a religious belief that violence is wrong and be opposed to military spending, but the government is still going to use you tax dollars to produce weapons of war.

Our government 'provides for the common defense', but 'promote the general welfare' has not yet evolved to include universal health care. At the insistence of some, health care resides in the private sector, which is why we're dealing with birth control as someone else's religious issue. In the military, for example, women are provided with contraception. If you are opposed to contraception, why not refuse to pay your taxes?

A bit of a tangent, but every time birth control comes up, I can't help but take a trip to the Monty Python Hall of Fame.

[_subgenius]

Some likely 95% of those who use birth control use it because they are sluts.

I'm curious: What sexual behavior makes a woman a 'slut''?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slut

[_MeDotOrg]

Some likely 95% of those who use birth control use it because they are sluts.

I'm curious: What sexual behavior makes a woman a 'slut''?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slut

Definition of SLUT

1 chiefly British : a slovenly woman (Let's throw this one out, unless someone wants to make a case for the correlation between birth control and dress codes).
2 a : a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute

Definition of PROMISCUOUS
pro·mis·cu·ous adjective \prə-ˈmis-kyə-wəs\
: having or involving many sexual partners

Definition of MANY

1 : consisting of or amounting to a large but indefinite number

So 95% of the women who use birth control have a great amount of sexual partners?

According to the CDC, only 9% of American women have more than 15 sexual partners in their lifetime.


...and what is the male equivalent of slut?

[_subgenius]

So 95% of the women who use birth control have a great amount of sexual partners?

According to the CDC, only 9% of American women have more than 15 sexual partners in their lifetime.


...and what is the male equivalent of slut?

95 % of women on birth control have only had about 5 sexual partners....but they were all at once

[_just me]

Just Me..... You're mixing arguments.

Birth Control is an umbrella word for "anything", not simply the birth control pill or similar.
More so, women outside of marriage who aren't usually on birth control, simply have men use a condom, which guess what also is birth control.

You don't know what you are talking about. Show me where you get this belief that Women who are not married just use condoms. Also, if that is true why are you worried about contraception use among women? Why are you calling them sluts for using contraception other than condoms?

Maybe you aren't aware, but birth control is a CHOICE.... It's not a "medical" or "health" issue that insurance should cover.

Please explain how a woman's reproductive HEALTH has nothing to do with her health. While you're at it you can feel free to look up uses of contraception that go beyond controlling pregnancy. A woman's uterus is just as important to her health as your prostate is to yours.

Pregnancy puts a woman at risk for a host of other health problems and diseases. A woman's ability to control when and if she gets pregnant is vital to her health and well-being.

You cannot prove that reproductive health is not a "medical" or "health" issue. You lose.

Insurance started covering it because everyone started using the pill.

If this is true it doesn't even matter.

Further, I was married for 12 years..... We had 3 kids, every one was planned save the last which we willingly took the risk.
We never used birth control in ANY form save of few times primarily in the first few years. Our birth control was the woman's natural fertilization cycle.
It's easy to not need.

The method of family planning that you are referring to is very risky and has the highest failure rate. Your choice. You admit that your ex-wife is among the other 99% of women who have used some form of contraception in their life. You also admit that NFP FAILED for you!

NFP does not protect a woman against STI's and has the highest failure rate of any method. Plus, it can be very time consuming and require dedication that not everyone is capable of.

Then we get to the issue that contraception use is a MEDICAL choice for many women. It is used to treat several medical issues that have nothing to do with preventing pregnancy. I have known several non-sexual young women who have used contraception to control medical issues...this was prescribed by their doctor.

Sorry

I know.

Thus, you can choose to buy your OWN birth control if that also is your choice. A company should not be forced to pay for YOUR "personal" and PRIVATE choices.

That's fine. Companies should not have to pay for medications related to OBESITY either. Over-eating is a choice.
Heck, why are they covering Viagra and vasectomy's? That's just a "personal" CHOICE.
I don't think lung cancer should be covered, either, right?
You know what, I don't want my business to pay for insurance that covers car accidents. People choose to be in a car when they are perfectly capable of walking everywhere.

But, NONE of that isn't even what the Hobby Lobby case what about so I'm not sure what your bigoted ass is going on about.

[_Quasimodo]

So 95% of the women who use birth control have a great amount of sexual partners?

According to the CDC, only 9% of American women have more than 15 sexual partners in their lifetime.


...and what is the male equivalent of slut?

95 % of women on birth control have only had about 5 sexual partners....but they were all at once

[_subgenius]

A woman's ability to control when and if she gets pregnant is vital to her health and well-being.

A woman's ability to eat food is more vital to her health and well-being...but the government does not mandate an employer giving her coupons to Olive Garden....
Perhaps you did not notice but employers give women money...and women can buy whatever goods and services they choose...including birth control.
So, no one is "denying" women anything - except you...you seem to insist that women have no sense at all.

[_just me]

A woman's ability to control when and if she gets pregnant is vital to her health and well-being.

A woman's ability to eat food is more vital to her health and well-being...but the government does not mandate an employer giving her coupons to Olive Garden....
Perhaps you did not notice but employers give women money...and women can buy whatever goods and services they choose...including birth control.
So, no one is "denying" women anything - except you...you seem to insist that women have no sense at all.

Healthcare is a very different ballgame, in case you didn't know. You're comparing apples and baseballs.

Healthcare insurance and what is covered by that insurance is what is at play. Luckily, women who work for oddball companies will still have all birth control options covered by their health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.