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on the MD front regarding Hobby Lobby...is it because the pursed lips make no noise?


Or, are you just embarassed by the reaction from your camp?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38 ... ly-wharton

Some how the spin doctors for the left have decided that the conclusion to be drawn from the Hobby Lobby decision is that it is discriminatory against women...that it is controlling a woman's body...her sexuality.
Not the strip club...not the diminished role of fathers and marriage...not the legalization of abortion...but a private company not having to subsidize sluts is somehow demeaning to women.
That somehow a woman who is unable to control her own, often booze-drug-psycho fueled - sexuality as a means to either validate or resolve whatever social construct that surely was already oppressing her - could only have escaped the shackles of "men" with free abortion pills.

Progressives ?.....i get it now...its like having a fat friend with the nickname "tiny".

The outrage is best summarized by:
“If anything rivals the Left’s passion on the abortion issue, it’s their commitment to the regulatory state.”

Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevo ... z36FOIfkIu

Again, keep bringing these gems. First attack science and now women. Of course all women who want birth control (even those who need it for medical reasons) must be "sluts"!

Yeah, I'd be hiding behind a pseudonym too if I shared your bigotry.

Some of us are too busy using the internet today to join with organizations that are striving for equality.

But, here is a wonderful example of foot in mouth disease given to us by the fair state of Utah.

Senator Agrees Women Use Birth Control for Recreational Behavior Hours After Hobby Lobby Decision

During an appearance on Sirius XM’s The Wilkow Majority, host Andrew Wilkow argued that the real question in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., was about “whether or not a person who runs a business should be forced to provide something that is largely for recreational behavior, if it goes against their religious beliefs.”

Lee, responded by saying “Yea, that’s right, that’s right,” before claiming that “this administration is using the often coercive power of the federal government to force people into their way of being and their way of existing, their way of believing and thinking and acting.”

subgenius wrote: ...a private company not having to subsidize sluts is somehow demeaning to women.
That somehow a woman who is unable to control her own, often booze-drug-psycho fueled - sexuality as a means to either validate or resolve whatever social construct that surely was already oppressing her - could only have escaped the shackles of "men" with free abortion pills.

Sub, why reduce yourself to a sad parody of the idiots who hand you these pathetic talking points?

My sister was prescribed birth control pills by her doctor for many years as part of her management of endometriosis. She was not even capable of becoming pregnant or having a child.

Presumably you can tell us how that equates to being a slut or using 'abortion pills' as a lifestyle choice.

canpakes wrote:

subgenius wrote: ...a private company not having to subsidize sluts is somehow demeaning to women.
That somehow a woman who is unable to control her own, often booze-drug-psycho fueled - sexuality as a means to either validate or resolve whatever social construct that surely was already oppressing her - could only have escaped the shackles of "men" with free abortion pills.

Sub, why reduce yourself to a sad parody of the idiots who hand you these pathetic talking points?

My sister was prescribed birth control pills by her doctor for many years as part of her management of endometriosis. She was not even capable of becoming pregnant or having a child.

Presumably you can tell us how that equates to being a slut or using 'abortion pills' as a lifestyle choice.

sub is unmoved by facts, as we can see by his choice of reading materials.

My sister was prescribed birth control pills by her doctor for many years as part of her management of endometriosis. She was not even capable of becoming pregnant or having a child.

Presumably you can tell us how that equates to being a slut or using 'abortion pills' as a lifestyle choice.

Hobby Lobby offered 16 different types of birth control. I'm sure that list includes birth control for management of endometriosis. The birth control at issue was "the day after pill."

What's funny about all this slut shaming is that there are only 4 methods of BC that are not going to be covered by HL. They are methods that, in spite of science proving contrary, HL believes to be abortive in nature. They are still providing BC coverage of 16 methods to all female employees regardless of marital status.

What's even funnier is that the majority of women who use BC are married. Big fat slutty whores!!!

This isn't about religious convictions at all. It's about power.

just me wrote: This isn't about religious convictions at all. It's about power.

No, it really is about religious convictions. Hobby Lobby is similar to Chik-fil-A, in that the founders of both companies are not kidding about trying to integrate their beliefs about Christian values into how they do business (that's explicitly why Chik-fil-A closes on Sunday, for example).

David Green, the founder of Hobby Lobby, wrote a book in which he talks at length about how his Christian upbringing and beliefs inform his business practices. The book is even sold in Christian bookstores, which should be a pretty good hint about Hobby Lobby's founder/owners commingling their religious convictions and business model.

More Than a Hobby: How a $600 Startup Became America's Home and Craft Superstore

One element of the statutory test for exemption from a federal law under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act is that the religious belief at issue must be sincerely held. It was undisputed by the government that Hobby Lobby's owners sincerely held their religious belief that life begins at conception. If this were merely about having power over women, then you could reasonably expect Hobby Lobby to be opposing all forms of birth control for women. That wasn't their position. They're only opposed to birth control that takes effect after fertilization has happened. Plus the majority of Hobby Lobby's customer base is women, so it would not be a very prudent move for the company to be blatantly sexist like that.

The RFRA exemption for Hobby Lobby doesn't deny these other four forms of birth control to female employees of Hobby Lobby, either. The reason Hobby Lobby won was on the question of fact of whether a less restrictive means for fulfilling the government mandate was available. There is such a less restrictive means available; the Affordable Care Act on its own terms makes FDA-approved birth control available to women with no cost sharing if they work for an exempt religious entity or for a company whose health care plan has been grandfathered.

Let's see what advice (Mormon) God has for us on the subject....

Decisions about birth control and the consequences of those decisions rest solely with each married couple.

https://www.lds.org/topics/birth-contro ... th+control

Strange how God doesn't support subby's point of view.