Garner Case About Standing Between A Liberal And His Taxes

[_bcspace]

This is nonsense this had anything to do with race. This is a tax case. It was Bloomberg insists on we're going to deploy the police to collect taxes because they need to pay the pensions of their public sector union buddies. Bloomberg starts arresting all these people. And notice which case did the left, did the MSNBC, did the New York Times obsess with? Everyone who has seen that tape of Eric Garner says, oh, my gosh, they have five cops for untaxed cigarettes? But that's not the case The New York Times is interested in. And that's not the case that MSNBC's interested in. No, it's a guy whose in Ferguson who's trying to kill a cop.

I mean, the Garner case is almost everything the left falsely said about Mike Brown. He really does seem to be a gentle giant. Oh, he had 31 arrests. Yeah, they're all for selling untaxed cigarettes. Notice that the left wing, you'll never see fascism like a liberal trying to collect taxes... I can prove it's has nothing to do with race. Usually it's Indians the cops are roughing up for selling untaxed cigarettes...

And if we knew -- if instead of selling untaxed cigarettes Eric Garner has been accused or guilty of assault, a rape, well then you wouldn't say that was undue force. What is shocking about that videotape is, are you kidding me? This is for selling untaxed cigarettes? Do not stand between a liberal and his taxes because that's how they pay for their beloved public sector unions and their ridiculous pensions...

This is the shocking part about this story. And to say that this wouldn't have happened if he was white. No, I will correct you because usually it's Indians because they're allowed to sell untaxed cigarettes on reservations. But, oh, we have to make sure you're only selling to other Indians. There have been huge busts, there have been cops roughing up Indians in the past. I was looking up cases today on Nexus. This is not something new. This is standing between a liberal and collecting taxes. And wasn't The New York Times and MSNBC going more on this case than on a really not very good case from the beginning with Mike Brown in Ferguson? You saw that tape of him roughing up the poor clerk from the moment anybody saw that.

This is actually a lovely family. The stepfather was a molecular opposite of Mike Brown's father, stepfather. The stepfather in Ferguson yelling "burn this B---- down" immediately after the verdict to an angry crowd. And by the way, they did burn the b---- down. Compared to the stepfather last night who was absolutely magnificent. What a lovely man. He said, 'I do not want to see any violence that would not honor my stepson's memory.' Why are we fixating on this? Because of taxes.

"Do Not Stand Between A Liberal And His Taxes"

[_Gunnar]

I share your admiration for the attitude of Garner's step dad, and I don't think anyone here disagrees that the cops reactions to a man guilty of nothing worse than selling untaxed cigarettes was way over the top. However, there is too much evidence that blacks are disproportionately more likely to receive harsh treatment at the hands of police (especially white cops) for me to be as certain as you are that a white man guilty of the same thing would have been just as severely treated by police.

[_Kevin Graham]

I already pointed out how stupid Hannity and others were for using this tragedy to further their political agenda, but you're really a worthless piece of crap for posting this.

[_ajax18]

This reminds me a bit of the Rodney King case. When all we had was liberal news networks and liberal newspapers the only thing we knew was this poor black man was being beaten by white police officers. Most people had no idea how many times Rodney King had been arrested before this incident. Most had the misconception that he'd never committed a crime in his life and the only reason the police were suspicious of him was because he was black.

[_EAllusion]

Nothing Rodney King did deserved a gang-beating.



Regarding the issue of his death being caused by enforcing a petty tax issue driven by liberal anti-smoking policy, I think that is perfectly relevant. I'll quote the article I quoted in the parallel thread to this one:

Sen. Rand Paul took some heat this week for pointing out that Eric Garner was essentially executed for selling untaxed cigarettes. I’m not sure why this is a controversial thing to say (especially since Paul also explicitly said the video itself was “horrifying”). Every law, no matter how seemingly innocuous, is enforced with the threat of violence: If you fail to follow it, the state is saying it reserves the right to use violence to force you to comply and/or force you to submit to a penalty for violating the law. Every law passed also creates more opportunities for interaction with police officers, the people entrusted to use the violence necessary to enforce the laws. How a proposed law will be enforced, and potentially abused, ought to be considered in addition to the content of the law itself.

or example, primary seat belt laws give cops another way to racially profile black motorists. It’s another excuse for a pretext stop. Earlier this year, I put up a post about the harrowing video showing South Carolina state trooper Sean Groubert firing a barrage of bullets at motorist Lavar Jones as Jones reached for his driver’s license. Groubert had pulled Jones over because Jones wasn’t wearing his seat belt. It isn’t the first time a seat belt stop has escalated to violence. In September, an Indiana family filed a lawsuit stemming from a seat belt stop that resulted in police smashing a car window and tasering one of the occupants. A Georgia family has filed a lawsuit after a traffic stop last January that ended with a teen being pulled from the car and handcuffed at gunpoint. He was cited only for not waring a seat belt. A seat belt stop in Florida last year led to an officer inadvertently running over and killing 38-year-old Marlon Brown.

Now, I doubt that New York city council anticipated that failure to comply with this particular law would result in a man’s death, any more than legislators in Indiana, Georgia, South Carolina, or Florida anticipated that seat belt enforcement could end in tasings, shootings, or arrests. But you enforce the laws with the police institutions you have, not the police institutions you want. Low-level offenses are a tool police sometimes use to do sweeps for outstanding warrants, or as part of a “broken windows” strategy of law enforcement. These are tactics overwhelmingly deployed on low-income and minority communities.

Where BCSpace's article gets offensive is in insisting that this is not about race. The fact that such petty laws are used as a basis for discriminatory policing is a racial issue. Like being unable to attribute any particular weather event to the overall trend of global warming, you can't say if this particular interaction was definitely caused by race, but you can say that this kind of issue is something racial minorities, and blacks in particular, are especially vulnerable to.