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ldsfaqs wrote:
It's like liberals have never heard of Google before, they expect people to do the work THEY should be doing themselves, authentic balanced study, you expect us to do the work for you, THEN you just ignore it, claim it propaganda or whatever, thus you never understand or see the full truth.

But, I'll entertain you.... and watch you ignore the facts.
Read each of these pages and watch the videos in them. And there is much much more examples out there.
This is just a TASTE of who Obama is and what he does, and especially those with him. The ideology's, beliefs and actions of those with a president also say much.

22 Things Obama Has Done Which Are CLEARLY Socialist
http://mrconservative.com/2013/02/5276- ... socialist/

President Obama's Marxist-Leninist Economics: Fact And Fiction
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendric ... d-fiction/

Is President Obama Really A Socialist? Let's Analyze Obamanomics
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrar ... amanomics/

THE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER PLAN
http://www.commieblaster.com/news/commu ... -plan.html

Proof Obama's a: Communist / Socialist (note, a few things in this page/site are well, speculation and/or false, but it's full of plenty of facts also, so don't be afraid)
http://www.commieblaster.com/obama/index.html

Obama’s Platform Is Eerily Similar to the Communist Party USA’s
http://www.independentsentinel.com/obam ... arty-usas/

lds, this isn't starting out well. I went to the first link and was given a list of items that do not prove Obama to be a communist. In fact, it's called, "22 Things Obama Has Done Which Are Clearly Socialist", and it's not even a good list of that, either. Do you have a list as to why he would be a communist?


The next link to a Forbes article states, "There is no comparison between Barack Obama’s statism and the genocidal, gulag-riddled regime of the Soviet Communists". Then it lists a bunch of things that Obama has neither done nor is responsible for, or that have existed long before him, like the estate tax. Especially humorous is #9 on the list:

Control over where people live:
Team Obama doesn’t go quite this far, but one of the clear implications of cap-and-trade is that government could start to limit human mobility by controlling how far they can travel by capping energy consumption.

So here the complaint is again about something that Obama, by the author's admission, has not done, and frankly is highly improbable under any circumstance.


The third link calls Obama a Marxist because of tax increases that have not occurred or that were put in place by Congress (House Republicans, anyone?)... not that taxes have been proven to be 'Marxist', anyway.


The fourth page is bona-fide, tin-foil conspiratorial nutcase fodder. Good stuff for controlling folks who have the intellectual capacity of a squirrel, but nothing here trends towards the actual. Feel free to ask about any of it in particular if you believe otherwise.


And Holy Crap, the fifth link is just hysterical. : )


I didn't make it to the sixth link; I had to clean the drink off of my keyboard after spitting it out in a fit of laughter induced from link #5.


This is a terrible list. If this is the best that can be done to prove Obama a 'communist', then no actual proof has been offered. Let me know when you have something solid.

Instead of just bypassing the links due to your assumptions, read and study the materials for yourself.
Yes, the Communist website does have "some" junk in it (like Alex Jones has some junk), but 98% of it is good simple facts and truth.

Also, you should really watch the videos in the 6th link.
Glenn's videos on this issue are FULL of good facts and truth of who Obama and his friends are.
Make sure you go to Youtube to watch the first video first.

by the way, liberals are primarily socialists AND communists, not really one or the other.
They mix ideology's of both.

ldsfaqs wrote:Instead of just bypassing the links due to your assumptions, read and study the materials for yourself.

Ah, but I didn't bypass them. I looked at 5 of them out of 6. I read all of the main text associated with each. What I found is some supremely bad reasoning. My challenge to you would be to read, say, just the first one, and then go down the list within and explain why each of those items makes Obama a communist. We can discuss them one by one. Want to give it a go?

ldsfaqs wrote:Yes, the Communist website does have "some" junk in it (like Alex Jones has some junk)

Yes, like hot dogs from a Chinese manufacturer of industrial goods might have "some" junk in them. Like that.

ldsfaqs wrote:Also, you should really watch the videos in the 6th link.

I'll save my time and eyes the trouble. Politically-motivated and themed videos are notorious for being the worst kind of mind-numbing propaganda available, designed to be consumed by the laziest and most unthinking of ideologues, those who need their daily dose of confirmation bias fed to them by their masters in a manner not dissimilar to an infant that lies helpless and awaits its chance to suck wet, watered-down rice pablum from a nursing bottle.

Let me know when you have something solid for us to chew on.

And like I knew.... you would cop-out and not read or watch save for the tiniest amount.

I never expected you to see anything anway, you see what you want to see instead of the facts.

ldsfaqs wrote:And like I knew.... you would cop-out and not read or watch save for the tiniest amount.

I never expected you to see anything anway, you see what you want to see instead of the facts.

I read. You won't discuss. End of story.

If you cannot take on the written words of 5 of the websites that you posted, don't whine about me about not wasting the bandwidth to download and watch simpleminded propaganda that cannot be referred to and discussed.

Apparently, Obama is no communist.

Keep your head in the sand.....

I provided plenty of resources showing plenty of facts that proves what he is and believes, even plenty in his own words.
But you keep being ignorant.

ldsfaqs wrote:And like I knew.... you would cop-out and not read or watch save for the tiniest amount.

I never expected you to see anything anway, you see what you want to see instead of the facts.

Yeah, I hate it when people are like that. It's so annoying. No matter what facts and studies and logic they are faced with they just call it lies and see what they want to see. Believing is conspiracies and calling everyone who disagrees with them names like liar and evil.

just me wrote:

ldsfaqs wrote:And like I knew.... you would cop-out and not read or watch save for the tiniest amount.

I never expected you to see anything anway, you see what you want to see instead of the facts.

Yeah, I hate it when people are like that. It's so annoying. No matter what facts and studies and logic they are faced with they just call it lies and see what they want to see. Believing is conspiracies and calling everyone who disagrees with them names like liar and evil.

What you simply don't get is that you think your facts and study's are the actual facts and truth.
You are clueless that you are lied to by liberalism, that there is MORE truth that entirely debunks your conclusions from your cherry picked facts.

It's exactly the same as your anti-mormonism.
If your beliefs of Mormonism were actually true, I wouldn't be Mormon. In fact, I wasn't once because I was ignorant of the full facts and truth.
But I learned more.... You however are incapable of it, because you have no interest in objectively seeking the full truth, you simply believe what you are told.

Thus, you are evil, you are a liar.

ldsfaqs wrote:
What you simply don't get is that you think your facts and study's are the actual facts and truth.
You are clueless that you are lied to by liberalism, that there is MORE truth that entirely debunks your conclusions from your cherry picked facts.

It's exactly the same as your anti-mormonism.
If your beliefs of Mormonism were actually true, I wouldn't be Mormon. In fact, I wasn't once because I was ignorant of the full facts and truth.
But I learned more.... You however are incapable of it, because you have no interest in objectively seeking the full truth, you simply believe what you are told.

lds, why are you afraid to go point-by-point from your first link above?

What do you fear?

ldsfaqs wrote:Thus, you are evil, you are a liar.

Seems like a bit of projection. An honest man would not fear debating his claims. You don't seem to be honest here.

canpakes wrote:
What do you fear?

It's very clear that faqs fears 2 things. 1) being wrong. 2) changing his worldview

Mostly being wrong. Just see how reacts to the the posts that come closest to forcing him to realize his errors. He comes undone.