Republican describes Bad Ideas of His Party

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That said, if Paul Ryan pushes his unlimited debt ceiling through, the Republican party could split in civil war. This may not be a bad thing. Many conservatives are finally starting to wake up make their voices heard again.


US budget deficit falls to 8-year low in 2015
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but because they lose the ability top hold everyone hostage to a government shut down.


Republicans are not using the power of the purse now. Conservatives lose nothing with the collapse of the Republican party.
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The 2015 deficit could prove to be the smallest for some time. The projected deficit for the fiscal year 2016 just begun is projected to rise to $455 billion, and to continue to rise for several years at least as both the economy and budget grow.


With $20 trillion in national debt and 200 trillion in unfunded liabilities, continuing to call a decrease in the rate of spending increases a cut is unacceptable.

50 million Americans in poverty, 48 million on food stamps, median annual income is down $5000 per household, 93 million Americans out of the labor force, and the lowest workforce participation rate since 1978. We have an unenforced border that costs American jobs and lowers the American standard of living.

Most of this is Obama's fault. But the Republican congress deserves some blame for not holding the line and stopping what they could have stopped.
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ajax18 wrote:
but because they lose the ability top hold everyone hostage to a government shut down.


Republicans are not using the power of the purse now. Conservatives lose nothing with the collapse of the Republican party.


Wrong on both. If the tea party splits with the Republicans, democrats will benefit huge. You would have to be stupid not to see this.
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ajax18 wrote:With $20 trillion in national debt and 200 trillion in unfunded liabilities, continuing to call a decrease in the rate of spending increases a cut is unacceptable.

Those tax cuts really add up!
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Kevin Graham wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Most of the offensive and factually wrong statements came from CNBC's moderators last night.


Uh, that's bullcrap.

Honesty Took a Big Hit in Wednesday's Debate

The one thing these clowns have in common is their willingness to flat out lie at the drop of a hat.

using motherjones to dispute republican claims seems rather.....like using Fox news to dispute deomcrats' claims.
And if you had bothered to actually read your own citation you would have noticed that most of the author's article consisted of "because i say its a lie"....like this well sourced and definitive rebuttal to a Fiorina statement - "No, we don't have 470,000 businesses going under and claiming it's because of Obamacare."...yep, the author felt that was enough to buttress the claim that Firoina was "lying".

The only thing more offensive than CNBC is an alcoholic's morning breath......know what i mean, eh?...nudge nudge :wink:
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Themis wrote:Wrong on both. If the test party splits with the Republicans, democrats will benefit huge. You would have to be stupid not to see this.

why would you think that the tea party could split the Republicans? Exactly how far off the reservation do you believe them to be? Last time i checked the two are not different with regards to platform, so the electorate would easily remain united to the cause. Personality is a rather shallow and short-lived distinction (Hillary is betting huge on that fact).


Is it your contention that the Democratic party is internally cohesive with its platform? Is not the divide between Sanders and Hillary much greater than the divide between any two Republican candidates?

You may be foolishly distracted, my friend.
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subgenius wrote:
Themis wrote:Wrong on both. If the test party splits with the Republicans, democrats will benefit huge. You would have to be stupid not to see this.

why would you think that the tea party could split the Republicans?


Because many want to.http://samuel-warde.com/2015/01/tea-party-leaders-predict-doom/

I am just saying of they do it will mean democrats win a lot more seats.

Is it your contention that the Democratic party is internally cohesive with its platform? Is not the divide between Sanders and Hillary much greater than the divide between any two Republican candidates?


Did I claim they are internally cohesive? Any divide atm does not seem to cause as much of a problem as the divide in the right. History is full of parties splitting up over differences. Extreme elements are hard to please if a party wants to be in power.
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subgenius wrote:The only thing more offensive than CNBC is an alcoholic's morning breath......know what i mean, eh?...nudge nudge :wink:

Reince Priebus had an interesting idea of letting the Republican party or candidates choose the questions and format, but as for now, they are taking their ball and going home and will no longer play with NBC and Telemundo.

It is the Republican's debate, don't see why they stick solely with the Fox Network? With a clown on clown format, it might simply entertain the audience - especially if they have fond memories of Topo Gigo and Clarabelle, which many older folks do. Heck, if Republicans are courting the Hispanic vote, perhaps they could have Hannity do a Jose Jimenez routine.
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moksha wrote:
subgenius wrote:The only thing more offensive than CNBC is an alcoholic's morning breath......know what i mean, eh?...nudge nudge :wink:

Reince Priebus had an interesting idea of letting the Republican party or candidates choose the questions and format, but as for now, they are taking their ball and going home and will no longer play with NBC and Telemundo.

It is the Republican's debate, don't see why they stick solely with the Fox Network? With a clown on clown format, it might simply entertain the audience - especially if they have fond memories of Topo Gigo and Clarabelle, which many older folks do. Heck, if Republicans are courting the Hispanic vote, perhaps they could have Hannity do a Jose Jimenez routine.


It's a good plan, moksha, except that the GOP has to try to win over some people that refuse to watch Fox to have any hope of winning the national election.

I'm not sure if their current plan is doing any better, though.
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