Republican describes Bad Ideas of His Party

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Ajax -

Whether you recognize it or not, by saying that a fair debate can't happen unless absurdly transparent propagandists who trade in lies for Republicans run the show you are basically saying that truth, reality, whatever you want to call it is on the side of Democrats. You are handing Democrats their best marketing tool.

[_EAllusion]

The exchange that got me the most was over Ben Carson's endorsement of what amounts to medical con-men. As a medical doctor no less. He just straight lied in response - to the point that it was even too much for the National Review.

It wasn't the fact that Carson boldly lied in the face of easily verifiable facts that gets me. I'm way too used to that. It was the palpable audience reaction that plainly found it heroic that he did so. That's disturbing.

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Whether you recognize it or not, by saying that a fair debate can't happen unless absurdly transparent propagandists

Do you not think that the mainstream media is biased toward the Democrats?

All I'm saying is let's have debates with moderators from both the left and the right.

[_Quasimodo]

Do you not think that the mainstream media is biased toward the Democrats?

All I'm saying is let's have debates with moderators from both the left and the right.

I'm not sure that debate moderators are acting out of political bias (not even the Fox clowns). I think the driving force behind any outrageous questions they may ask is ratings. They have to keep it interesting.

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I'm not sure that debate moderators are acting out of political bias (not even the Fox clowns). I think the driving force behind any outrageous questions they may ask is ratings. They have to keep it interesting.

That sounds reasonable. Andersen Cooper was a big donor to the Hillary Clinton campaign. I think it's more subtle than this though. Whatever your political beliefs it's foolish to think you can still be objective and unbiased.

[_honorentheos]

I'm not sure that debate moderators are acting out of political bias (not even the Fox clowns). I think the driving force behind any outrageous questions they may ask is ratings. They have to keep it interesting.

That sounds reasonable. Andersen Cooper was a big donor to the Hillary Clinton campaign. I think it's more subtle than this though. Whatever your political beliefs it's foolish to think you can still be objective and unbiased.

I don't believe the majority of the media is biased towards progressive or key Democrat Party platform issues. I do think that Fox News is partisan and that to dismiss this is dangerous.

That said, the CNBC debate was poorly moderated, in my opinion. Having more than one main moderator meant two clown cars were on display. And a few of the questions were worded to provoke which certainly implies taking a position on the issue.

I felt the democratic debate was much more elevated in tone and approach, but have to admit that when Bernie Sanders said, "Enough with the damn emails!" it isn't that different than Ted Cruz challenging the moderators on basically asking, "Is Trump a cartoon character? Can Rubio do math? etc., etc." Both were assertions that what the moderators were focusing on might make for good entertainment and conflict, but were not focused on issues. Both made valid points about the role the media ought to be playing as parties to the debate format. Challenging is necessary, but there are better ways to go about it.

[_moksha]

The exchange that got me the most was over Ben Carson's endorsement of what amounts to medical con-men. As a medical doctor no less. He just straight lied in response - to the point that it was even too much for the National Review.

But does this lie stand out from the general lack of honesty on the part of his rivals for the Republican nomination?

[_EAllusion]

Whether you recognize it or not, by saying that a fair debate can't happen unless absurdly transparent propagandists

Do you not think that the mainstream media is biased toward the Democrats?

All I'm saying is let's have debates with moderators from both the left and the right.

CNN is predominately biased towards tabloid interests, and this comes through in their debate hosting. CNBC, unlike MSNBC, is known for a moderate conservative bias, though this didn't particularly shine through in their debate. News media in general is often pulled in the direction of Republican messaging when it comes to accuracy because the media tends to prefer a sense of balance over truth and, unfortunately, Republican messaging has become pervasively detached from reality. Journalists tend to be liberal in their personal politics and this can color what they feel is newsworthy.

But even if we grant something as simple as a consistent liberal bias anywhere but Fox, this doesn't speak to the degree of that bias. It does not follow from detecting some ideological bent in topics covered and the way issues are framed that this means we can counter that with the most extreme, ridiculous propaganda imaginable. That neither balances things out nor does it make those who engage in such tactics appealing to people who care to and know how to be informed.

[_moksha]

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The CNBC executive who oversaw the catastrophic Republican presidential debate in Colorado is married to a Hillary Clinton 2016 donor.

Breitbart News reported that CNBC vice president of communications Brian Steel was the “executive on hand” at Wednesday night’s debate. Steel previously worked in the Bill Clinton White House for Vice President Al Gore and held three different positions in the Clinton administration, including two in Clinton’s Department of Justice.

Steel is married to Eileen Libutti, managing partner at New York City’s Lewis Johs Avallone Aviles LLP law firm. The Manhattan couple is making sure to get in good with Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign.

Libutti donated $2,700 to Hillary For America on June 23, just four months before the CNBC debate.

Steel and Libutti continue to socialize with Clinton administration veterans. They were spotted at an anniversary party in Maine in late June with former Clinton White House press secretary Jake Siewert and Clinton White House staffer Christine Anderson.

Siewert and Anderson also went to Steel’s surprise birthday party in Bridgehampton, New York, thrown for him by Libutti, in August. The party was also attended by former Clinton campaign staffer, Clinton administration official, and Al Gore presidential campaign chief of staff Mike Feldman and his wife, NBC News journalist Savannah Guthrie, as well as supermodel Christy Turlington.

The CNBC debate was rife with moderator attacks on the Republican candidates. The moderators compared Donald Trump to a cartoon super-villain, attacked Ben Carson’s judgment, and wondered why Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
doesn’t resign from the Senate. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) scored one of the night’s biggest applause breaks when he ranted about the moderators’ questions. Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus has suspended the next NBC News-hosted debate in the aftermath of the CNBC disaster.

Steel told Breitbart News that he was involved in planning the debate and in the execution of public relations issues but was not directly involved on the editorial side.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ton-donor/