Republican describes Bad Ideas of His Party

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The CNBC executive who oversaw the catastrophic Republican presidential debate in Colorado is married to a Hillary Clinton 2016 donor.


So the “F” what? Clarence Thomas' wife is a huge Tea Party supporter. Where is the outrage in that? FOX News hosts donate Republican all the friggin time. Where is the outrage in that?

I wonder which Democrat Megan Kelly was sleeping with the night before the debates. I mean, because obviously she's in bed with the Liberals too, right?

Face it, politicians are going to be hit with hard questions and all of them were. The difference is in the way each responds, and the only way Republicans know how to respond is my bitching and moaning, finding someone else to blame for their own shortcomings.

That, and flat out lying, because they knew the GOP base is basically a bunch of religious idiots who don't care about truth so much as they care about being made to feel good about their own bigoted positions.
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I could see them being very unhappy. Not because it is a bad thing, but because they lose the ability top hold everyone hostage to a government shut down. I hate that many on the right have no idea about what fiscal conservationism is about. It's not really about always lowering taxes. The budget won't be balanced by lowering taxes, or even cutting things to the bone. Of course if you are on the far right you won't want any cuts to military spending, and yet some tea party people make sure the military gets stuff they don't want or need.


I think Dick Armey was instrumental in the creation of the Tea Party. Why didn't they call themselves the "Dick Army"?


That's what everyone else calls them. :lol:
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Kevin Graham wrote: Where is the outrage in that? FOX News hosts donate Republican all the friggin time.

The Fox Network itself donates to the RNC. Seems like Fox should be paid for 24/7/365 media coverage for the party. Anyway, this is a symbiotic relationship that exists nowhere else in America. Probably have to go to North Korea to find anything similar.
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FOX News hosts donate Republican all the friggin time. Where is the outrage in that?


Fox News isn't hosting Democratic primary debates and posing "Gotcha, " questions to undermine the Democratic party.
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What is a gotcha question? Anything a Republican candidate would prefer not to have to answer? I know there are such things as gotcha questions, but that does not apply to what is being referenced here. I wouldn't mind hearing what you think a gotcha question is.

Take the Ben Carson question I referenced in this thread. Ben's notoriety and a big part of his appeal comes from his prestigious medical career.

At the same time he's used that prestige to market for a company selling fraudulent medical treatments and making egregious pseudo-scientific claims. They have exploited many gullible people and potentially done some significant harm. They even have faced legal sanction for this, which is hard to have happen in the wild west of the supplement/alternative medicine industry.

Ben Carson choose to field that question with straight-up lying. Is your take that it was a gotcha question? Why? Why is that not substantively relevant to his campaign for president? Is not his medical career and credibility relevant to that?
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Fox News isn't hosting Democratic primary debates and posing "Gotcha, " questions to undermine the Democratic party.


It is their job to ask tough questions, or didn't you know that?

Democrat candidates aren't bitching and moaning about it when they're asked tough questions about their past statements. The difference being, the GOP candidates are such idiots that they've said way too many incriminating things and they think they're above reproach when it comes time to explain their stupidity. Take Trumps latest comment insisting that any debate moderators should from now on prove they're registered Republicans.
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moksha wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote: Where is the outrage in that? FOX News hosts donate Republican all the friggin time.

The Fox Network itself donates to the RNC. Seems like Fox should be paid for 24/7/365 media coverage for the party. Anyway, this is a symbiotic relationship that exists nowhere else in America. Probably have to go to North Korea to find anything similar.

Actually they are getting paid...paid by the large advertising revenues from having the largest viewership. I know you find it difficult to believe that the majority of the American people don't watch MSNBC for regular updates on Rosie O'Donnell's missing children...but hey, whatcha gonna do?

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What is a gotcha question? Anything a Republican candidate would prefer not to have to answer?


I view proper questions as the questions that Republican voters want to hear answers to. Most Republican voters probably don't believe that because Marco Rubio had to cash out his 401k that he doesn't share their views on government taxing and spending.

How do you plan to payoff the national debt? Would you raise taxes and on who? Where would you cut spending? How will you get past Democratic obstructionism? Do you think we should have more or less legal immigration? Will you enforce the border and if so how?

Fantasy football?

Why is that not substantively relevant to his campaign for president? Is not his medical career and credibility relevant to that?


If it were so egregious, why didn't the AMA pull his medical license? Why did it take running for president for this to come out?
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I view proper questions as the questions that Republican voters want to hear answers to.


There isn't a single issue for which we don't already know their positions. What they really want to do up there is spew talking points and try to pull off these "applause" answers. It obviously doesn't really matter what questions they are asked, because these clowns were hell-bent on spinning away from them and start babbling about whatever it is they think their fans want to hear. Usually it is about putting down some Democrat, usually Hillary.

But these Republicans on the stand are simply too stupid to hold public office. They've said and done too many dumb things which simply cannot be defended, and so they're constantly on defense which is something they hate. They're so used to appearing on FOX and Talk Radio where they're being throws these softball questions. This is why Trump responded the way he did to Megan Kelly and the way these folks responded to the media in the last debate.

I mean, it wasn't as if we were going to get serious answers to any of these questions anyway. Just look at how this stupid woman tries to spin her way out of lying on stage. Just accuse the person of asking the question of being biased.

No, these are important questions that need to be asked of ANYONE guilty of lying and making stupid statements such as these.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
I view proper questions as the questions that Republican voters want to hear answers to.


There isn't a single issue for which we don't already know their positions. What they really want to do up there is spew talking points and try to pull off these "applause" answers. It obviously doesn't really matter what questions they are asked, because these clowns were hell-bent on spinning away from them and start babbling about whatever it is they think their fans want to hear. Usually it is about putting down some Democrat, usually Hillary.

But these Republicans on the stand are simply too stupid to hold public office. They've said and done too many dumb things which simply cannot be defended, and so they're constantly on defense which is something they hate. They're so used to appearing on FOX and Talk Radio where they're being throws these softball questions. This is why Trump responded the way he did to Megan Kelly and the way these folks responded to the media in the last debate.

I mean, it wasn't as if we were going to get serious answers to any of these questions anyway. Just look at how this stupid woman tries to spin her way out of lying on stage. Just accuse the person of asking the question of being biased.

No, these are important questions that need to be asked of ANYONE guilty of lying and making stupid statements such as these.


Most journalists share your views. That's what it takes to get hired in the mainstream media. I don't understand why the Republican party has insisted on people with your views picking and vetting the Republican presidential candidate.
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