An experiment in tolerance

[_subgenius]

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/288685 ... 5-28003-29

November 3, 2015
Policies on Ordinances for Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship
The following additions to
Handbook 1
have been approved by the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles for immediate implementation.

A new section in
Handbook 1
, 16.13 will be added as follows: Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship
A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may not receive a name and a blessing. A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may be baptized and confirmed, ordained, or recommended for missionary service only as follows:

Well you get the idea. ..let us sit back and enjoy the many gyrations of what liberal tolerance really means. ..

[_SteelHead]

Finishing out the quote:

A mission president or a stake president may request approval from the Office of the First Presidency to baptize and confirm, ordain, or recommend missionary service for a child of a parent who has lived or is living in a same-gender relationship when he is satisfied by personal interviews that both of the following requirements are met:

1.The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage.


2.The child is of legal age and does not live with a parent who has lived or currently lives in a same-gender cohabitation relationship or marriage.

This is punishing children for the transgressions of the parents.

[_subgenius]

... (snip)...
This is punishing children for the transgressions of the parents.

How so?

[_just me]

Tolerance, indeed.

The church should exclude everyone.

[_SteelHead]

The children of unwed parents can be baptized at 8. They do not have to: be over 18, not live in their unwed parents home, repudiate their parents relationship, and yet can be baptized.

How is this policy not punishing children for the actions of their parents?

[_ludwigm]

The children of unwed parents can be baptized at 8. They do not have to: be over 18, not live in their unwed parents home, repudiate their parents relationship, and yet can be baptized.

How is this policy not punishing children for the actions of their parents?

There are some step forward, compared to these:

Exodus 34
7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
Numbers 14
18 The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Deuteronomy 23
2. A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
3. An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:

[_subgenius]

Tolerance, indeed.

The church should exclude everyone.

Ya, the experiment is more for tolerance of those whom people like yourself demand tolerance from.
And your level is all top predictable for this experiment

[_subgenius]

The children of unwed parents can be baptized at 8. They do not have to: be over 18, not live in their unwed parents home, repudiate their parents relationship, and yet can be baptized.

How is this policy not punishing children for the actions of their parents?

Again...how is it punishment?

[_SteelHead]

Denies them access to saving ordinances and the guidance of the hg (tm). Marginalized them as undesirables.

How is this not punishment?

[_subgenius]

Denies them access to saving ordinances and the guidance of the hg (tm). Marginalized them as undesirables.

How is this not punishment?

So, your prepared alternative is to have the child participate in a doctrinal structure that the parents do not support, thus leaving the child in a situation where their parents will not provide the necessary foundation and encouragement. So rather than risking marginalization by a few you would rather guarantee marginalization by their own family.
Yep, your way sounds so much like "not punishment".