....has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with power. The campus culture wars aren’t about “victims” or “racial injustice” or “safe spaces.” People who shriek in the quad, launch hunger strikes in a blaze of publicity, or stand outside free-speech events and chant for censorship aren’t anyone’s victims. They’re not weak. They don’t need “protection.” They’re revolutionaries, and the revolution they seek is nothing less than the overthrow of our constitutional republic, beginning with our universities. This is a movement built from the ground up around power and coercion. This is a movement built from the ground up around power and coercion. They hate free speech because free speech represents nothing but a threat — a chance for dissenters to expose the bankruptcy of their ideas. They hate due process because due process stands in the way of class-based justice, of identity-based jurisprudence. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ot-justice
wait a minute! how can these protesters possible be accused of hating free speech...sounds unlikely....(cue white tears in 3...2..)
“You need to get out, you need to get out,” Melissa Click demanded of the person filming the protest. “You need to get out,” she continued before trying to grab the camera out of the videographer’s hands.
“I actually don’t,” the journalist told Click.
“Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here,” the media professor then hysterically exclaimed to the assembled mob. “I need some muscle over here!”
According to her bio on the University of Missouri website, Melissa Click specializes in “audience studies, theories of gender and sexuality, and media literacy”
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
So, on the one hand, there is a long-standing problem with hostility to free speech on college campuses that predominantly comes from left-wing activism. Professor Click is as good of a symbol of that as anything. At the same time, there is a serious problem with lack of respect for due processes principles in how sexual assault allegations are handled that is sweeping college campuses. As a cherry on top, there's the thought-terminating cliches of liberal argot especially popular on college-campuses that make you want to roll your eyes so hard.
On the other hand, the conservative backlash against this is filled with dumb anti-intellectuals who don't understand what they are criticizing and are hyperbolic. So many of the people on that side of the fence are hypocritical about this and will throw free speech and due process under the bus for their pet issues. Case in point, the above. Some professor wants to kick journalists out of a protest = end of the Republic. French wants to indefinitely detain and torture people accused of being terrorists by the government = American as apple pie. Got it.
Fortunately, I don't have to decide between two evils here. It's possible to find her actions and lack of respect for liberty in colleges reprehensible and not be a hypocrite that complains about her being a revolutionary out to destroy the Constitutional republic. Jesus, people.
What's the point of a protest if the media is NOT there?
Someone help me out here.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Dr. Shades wrote:What's the point of a protest if the media is NOT there?
Someone help me out here.
Perhaps you should discuss your confusion with a media literacy expert? I mean Professor Click obviously has the credentials to know better, right?
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Dr. Shades wrote:What's the point of a protest if the media is NOT there?
Someone help me out here.
From what I could gather, they didn't like that the media (who, as I understand, were actually students themselves) were inside the area where people were camped.
Weird little clash of freedom of association, and freedom of press. Such stuff can be expected of youth. It’s disheartening that a faculty member was such a dolt.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
Al Capone wrote:You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.
I would submit that the lesson from Mizzou this week is that you can get much farther with a protest and a Southeastern Conference Football Team than you can with a protest alone.
No, I'm not comparing the protesters with Al Capone. I'm simply making the observation that without the threatened boycott of the football team, that protest had as much chance of succeeding as a Planned Parenthood volunteer table at Liberty University.
Note to Black People: You want White People to understand that Black Lives Matter? Take away their football teams. Hit 'em right in the couch potatoes.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
Al Capone wrote:You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.
I would submit that the lesson from Mizzou this week is that you can get much farther with a protest and a Southeastern Conference Football Team than you can with a protest alone.
No, I'm not comparing the protesters with Al Capone. I'm simply making the observation that without the threatened boycott of the football team, that protest had as much chance of succeeding as a Planned Parenthood volunteer table at Liberty University.
Note to Black People: You want White People to understand that Black Lives Matter? Take away their football teams. Hit 'em right in the couch potatoes.
The irony being that organized football up through the NFL is the most sophisticated form of institutionalized racism in our modern day. Slaves protesting for a replacement master does not free them from slavery. The protest at Mizzou didn't have legs before because it had no substance in foundation...this was just Ferguson adjacent.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
EAllusion wrote:So, on the one hand, there is a long-standing problem with hostility to free speech on college campuses that predominantly comes from left-wing activism. Professor Click is as good of a symbol of that as anything. At the same time, there is a serious problem with lack of respect for due processes principles in how sexual assault allegations are handled that is sweeping college campuses. As a cherry on top, there's the thought-terminating cliches of liberal argot especially popular on college-campuses that make you want to roll your eyes so hard.
On the other hand, the conservative backlash against this is filled with dumb anti-intellectuals who don't understand what they are criticizing and are hyperbolic. So many of the people on that side of the fence are hypocritical about this and will throw free speech and due process under the bus for their pet issues. Case in point, the above. Some professor wants to kick journalists out of a protest = end of the Republic. French wants to indefinitely detain and torture people accused of being terrorists by the government = American as apple pie. Got it.
Fortunately, I don't have to decide between two evils here. It's possible to find her actions and lack of respect for liberty in colleges reprehensible and not be a hypocrite that complains about her being a revolutionary out to destroy the Constitutional republic. Jesus, people.
And it's possible to just live on the sidelines for your whole life, never commit, never make an impact, never create - but just pontificate. So long as someone else provides me the means to do I will be be happy as a professional message board poster!!!
Dr. Shades wrote:What's the point of a protest if the media is NOT there?
Someone help me out here.
The protest was intended to influence the leadership of the college. This could happen with or without media attention. The hostility towards media came from perceiving them as somehow an enemy to their aims. The idea is that the media would portray them inaccurately therefore they are an unwelcome, dangerous element. As for why they think that, it has to do with the idea that implicit racist thinking distorts narratives created by media.
The upshot is after the huge backlash to this, at least some of them have reversed position and are apologizing for their attack on free speech. The same people who were attacked were welcomed back. How sincere that truly is I'm not sure, but at least they backed down.
subgenius wrote:The irony being that organized football up through the NFL is the most sophisticated form of institutionalized racism in our modern day. Slaves protesting for a replacement master does not free them from slavery. The protest at Mizzou didn't have legs before because it had no substance in foundation...this was just Ferguson adjacent.
