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Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:38 pm
by Res Ipsa
Sunday update: (Yep, 'tis the season when an election lawyer's work is never done.)

To no one's suprise, Trump filed a Notice of Appeal in Trump v. Boockvar (PA federal court).

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:08 pm
by MeDotOrg
What's the point spread on Rudy at the Supreme Court?

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:24 pm
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:40 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:59 pm


Hey, subs - when the courts finish up with these lawsuits and the election results remain unchanged, which militia will you be joining up with?
When you say “these lawsuits,” are you including the criminal suits for conspiracy to commit election fraud against Trump et al?
I think that I read of post of yours earlier where you illustrated some potential problems with the current suit against Trump, but we can include that in the catch-all category of lawsuits.
: )

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:25 pm
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:38 pm
Sunday update: (Yep, 'tis the season when an election lawyer's work is never done.)

To no one's suprise, Trump filed a Notice of Appeal in Trump v. Boockvar (PA federal court).
Does it just say, “I WON ... BY A LOT!!” ..?

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:55 pm
by Res Ipsa
canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:25 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:38 pm
Sunday update: (Yep, 'tis the season when an election lawyer's work is never done.)

To no one's suprise, Trump filed a Notice of Appeal in Trump v. Boockvar (PA federal court).
Does it just say, “I WON ... BY A LOT!!” ..?
Naw, it's just a regular NOA. Rudy is signing stuff, but I think real lawyers are doing the drafting.

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:04 am
by Res Ipsa
canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:24 pm

I think that I read of post of yours earlier where you illustrated some potential problems with the current suit against Trump, but we can include that in the catch-all category of lawsuits.
: )
I actually spent all yesterday afternoon yesterday drafting a post that listed the important lawsuits in each state, the relevant statutes in each state, and how this "soft coup" theoretically works. I got halfway through and quit. Still too many balls in the air.

Trump and some members of his legal team are skirting very close to violating state criminal election laws. Rudy and Sidney Powell are arguably committing ethics violations, and could well end up losing their licenses.

LOL, and just as I googled to check on the spelling of Powell's name, I see the Trump campaign has thrown her under the bus. I doubt she's going to be "blowing up" anything other than her license to practice. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trum ... egal-team/

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:49 am
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Chap wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:59 pm
Look subgenius - level with us, why dontcha?

You've had a chance to read that lengthy, tightly argued and fully referenced judgement. You can see it is not some kind of publicity-seeking 'press release', but is a serious legal document that scrupulously states the plaintiffs' case before dismissing it on stated grounds, and you now know that the judge in question is an active registered Republican.

...

Are you now willing to concede...?
It’s an actual alt-Right tactic, discussed widely, to never concede anything, ever. Just redirect to something else. Also, lol@posting the ruling and larping that subjenius would ever, ever, EVER read it. He literally lacks the cognitive faculties to do so. It’s an impossibility. It’d be akin to asking ldsfaqs to read Anna Karenina. An impossible task.

- Doc

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:07 am
by Res Ipsa
MeDotOrg wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:08 pm
What's the point spread on Rudy at the Supreme Court?
In the unlike event the Supreme Court touches this mess, I’d bet on someone other than Rudy arguing.

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:44 am
by subgenius
canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:59 pm
subgenius wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:42 pm
speak of the press release and he shall appear.
I appreciate your appeal-to-authority, but its not convincing.
Hey, subs - when the courts finish up with these lawsuits and the election results remain unchanged, which militia will you be joining up with?
You insult me by suggesting that i haven't started my own.

Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:46 am
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:04 am
LOL, and just as I googled to check on the spelling of Powell's name, I see the Trump campaign has thrown her under the bus. I doubt she's going to be "blowing up" anything other than her license to practice. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trum ... egal-team/
Ha. Just saw that myself.

This is one strange circus.
The Trump campaign is disavowing its association with attorney Sidney Powell after the far-fetched Trump campaign Thursday press conference when she claimed without evidence that the deceased Hugo Chávez, among others, was responsible for rigging the election. The campaign claimed that she "is not a member of the Trump legal team," even though the president and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani had previously identified her as being on the team.

In the days since the press conference, Powell has made additional unfounded claims to conservative networks, and her claims have even been questioned by Fox News' Tucker Carlson, after she refused to produce her evidence on the show.

"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity," said a statement from Giuliani and Trump campaign senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis.

During Thursday's press conference, Giuliani identified Powell as a member of the team defending Mr. Trump, and the president himself identified Powell as someone working for him in a November 14 tweet.

"I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!" Mr. Trump tweeted at the time.

Powell issued this statement to CBS News:

"I understand today's press release," she said. "I will continue to represent #WeThePeople who had their votes for Trump and other Republicans stolen by massive fraud through Dominion and Smartmatic, and we will be filing suit soon. The chips will fall where they may, and we will defend the foundations of this great Republic. #KrakenOnSteroids"

On Thursday, Ellis called the team giving the press conference, which included Powell, the "elite, strike force team." Powell, Giuliani and Ellis have claimed they're holding back their biggest evidence for court, where they continue to lose lawsuit cases.
Powell was the attorney for General Michal Flynn, the president's former national security adviser who was fired for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his Russian contacts, and convicted of lying to the FBI about the same thing.