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Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:41 pm
by Chap
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:41 am
A couple of the judges noted that they had some questions about the act's constitutionality. They would have remanded the case back to the Commonwealth Court for a trial on the constitutionality issues, but still would have dismissed the claims for relief to declare the election invalid and direct the legislature to pick the electors.
I saw that. That seems to be a sensible attitude. Apart from the fact that the objection is out of time, the idea of junking a whole election in which people have voted according to the law as then written would be crazily disproportionate, especially since it seems unlikely that a modified version of the law that met the objections of some would have produced a different result. However, there's nothing wrong with taking the time to discuss the issue after the dust has settled, so that everybody can be sure there is not a state constitutional problem next time round.
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:16 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
PA update (am I late with this news?):
"They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted"
https://6abc.com/donald-trump-election- ... n/8356617/
Justices also remarked on the lawsuit's staggering demand that an entire election be overturned retroactively.
- Doc
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:17 pm
by Res Ipsa
Chap wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:41 pm
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:41 am
A couple of the judges noted that they had some questions about the act's constitutionality. They would have remanded the case back to the Commonwealth Court for a trial on the constitutionality issues, but still would have dismissed the claims for relief to declare the election invalid and direct the legislature to pick the electors.
I saw that. That seems to be a sensible attitude. Apart from the fact that the objection is out of time, the idea of junking a whole election in which people have voted according to the law as then written would be crazily disproportionate, especially since it seems unlikely that a modified version of the law that met the objections of some would have produced a different result. However, there's nothing wrong with taking the time to discuss the issue after the dust has settled, so that everybody can be sure there is not a state constitutional problem next time round.
I think so, too. I think a new lawsuit in which the relief sought was a declaration that the law is unconstitutional would be considered on the merits without any fuss.
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:20 pm
by Res Ipsa
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:16 pm
PA update (am I late with this news?):
"They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted"
https://6abc.com/donald-trump-election- ... n/8356617/
Justices also remarked on the lawsuit's staggering demand that an entire election be overturned retroactively.
- Doc
You’re not too late. Just fashionably late.
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
I’ll be honest with you. I’m having a hard time tracking all the lawsuits and appeals. There are so many that it seems like one ruling after another is being made. So, I take what was discussed on page 24 was this ruling? In other words, while I’m reading articles to understand what’s happening, I can’t seem to keep everything sequential and linear if that makes sense. Plus I’m watching foosball while crap posting which has me moderately distracted.
- Doc
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm
by Brack
Biden ended up netting 87 votes from the Wisconsin recount. The Trump campaign plans to file another frivolous lawsuit.
MADISON - Wisconsin's partial recount boosted Democrat Joe Biden's victory by 87 votes Sunday as President Donald Trump said he was preparing a lawsuit to overturn the results.
https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/6455880002
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:12 pm
by Res Ipsa
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 pm
I’ll be honest with you. I’m having a hard time tracking all the lawsuits and appeals. There are so many that it seems like one ruling after another is being made. So, I take what was discussed on page 24 was this ruling? In other words, while I’m reading articles to understand what’s happening, I can’t seem to keep everything sequential and linear if that makes sense. Plus I’m watching foosball while crap posting which has me moderately distracted.
- Doc
I’ll move my summary post of all current suits to the beginning of the thread and keep it updated. It is hard to keep them all straight, and I have to consult multiple sources to make sure I have a handle on them.
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:27 pm
by Chap
By the way, has anybody seen Sydney Powell recently?
When last seen, she is said to have had one of these in her handbag:
Maybe it escaped and ate her?
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:03 am
by Dr Exiled
The Kraken certainly could have escaped and swallowed Sidney Powell whole. Even so, the Kraken may be with us for a while. Jill Stein just barely won her lawsuit over the 2016 election in the end of October, 2020.
https://markcrispinmiller.com/2020/10/j ... -some-day/
Re: Election Litigation Scorecard
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:12 am
by Res Ipsa
Stein's lawsuits were certainly helpful in getting states to use voting machines that leave an auditable paper trail.
