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Chap wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:43 pm

Thanks, Res Ipsa. I do know that a quite large number of Trump-supporting claims have been tested in court as you say, and I am heartened to have seen from the judgements that the reaction has largely been along the lines of "Is that all you've got? And you want me/us to junk the election on grounds as flimsy as those??".

So basically, my reaction to the latest subgenius slam dunk is always going to be 'see you in court'.

Mine too.

Another court loss for team Trump.

Appeals court rejects effort to block Biden's win in Georgia

A federal appeals court shot down a bid by a conservative lawyer to block President-elect Joe Biden's victory in Georgia, handing down the latest setback for the sprawling legal effort to subvert the results of the Nov. 3 presidential race.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit said it supports the ruling of District Judge Steven Grimberg, a Trump appointee, who found that L. Lin Wood did not have the legal standing to sue over the results in Georgia, where Biden defeated President Trump by about 12,000 votes.

The appeals court ruled that Wood "had to prove that his suit presents a justiciable controversy" but ultimately "failed to satisfy this burden" and "fails to allege a particularized injury."

"We may not entertain post-election contests about garden-variety issues of vote counting and misconduct that may properly be filed in state courts," the appeals court decided.

The court also said Wood's challenge was moot since Georgia already certified its election.

The decision was the latest in a string of defeats in various legal efforts in battleground states across the country to overturn the election results. Trump and his allies, as well as outside supporters such as Wood, were handed an avalanche of legal losses this week in a demoralizing week for the legal team, with lawsuits dismissed in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Many of the rulings have been based on a lack of evidence or a lack of legal standing by the plaintiffs.

The Peach State has emerged as the center of conservatives' legal efforts to overturn the election results. Despite the series of losses and Georgia's certification, Trump and his allies have maintained that widespread voter fraud and issues over things such as ballot signatures cost the president the state.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... eorgia?amp

Chap wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:43 pm

... the latest subgenius slam dunk ...

That’s going a bit far. I’m pretty sure he hasn’t even found the ball yet.

Trump called the Georgia Governor to tell him to overturn the election. This in and of itself is an impeachable offense, but we've become numb to his many crimes against the Constitution we just don't even pay attention anymore.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia- ... 6e0925c594

OK, here's the Friday recap:

Minnesota: The Supreme Court dismissed a petition to delay certification and conduct a full recount. The first two claims were barred by laches (they could have been brought before the election). The third was dismissed for failure to comply with the court's order to add the counties as parties. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... e-Case.pdf

Wisconsin: The Supreme Court dismissed a petition for original jurisdiction. The concurring opinion is pretty brutal. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... 2-4-20.pdf

Michigan: Trump's suit to block certification in Wayne County was dismissed by the Court of Appeals as moot. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... _17_01.pdf The majority opinion notes that the Trump campaign filed for relief shortly after the election, but waiting to file a brief until two weeks after the results in Wayne County were certified.

Georgia: The 11th Circuit dismissed the appeals of the denial of emergency injunctive relief in both the Krakken I and Lin Wood cases. (Lin Wood is an attorney in the former and the plaintiff in the latter). So, back to the trial court for motions to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... Denied.pdf https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... firmed.pdf

Arizona: Trial court denied Kellie Ward's election challenge. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... rder-2.pdf

Nevada: Election contest denied: https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... ontest.pdf

Were new lawsuits and appeals filed? Of course!!

Trump filed an appeal of the Wisconsin recount. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... l_Dane.pdf

Trump filed an emergency notice of appeal with the Pennsylvania Supreme Court of his challenge in Buck's County that involves the grand total of 69 votes. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... l_Dane.pdf

Mike Kelly in PA refiled his petition for any emergency stay with the U.S. Supreme Court. Justice Alito asked for a response by December 9, the day after the safe harbor date. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... nction.pdf

Trump filed an election contest in GA.

Several members of the Arizona Election Integrity Association filed an election contest directly with the state Supreme Court. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... ontest.pdf

Okay, but what about today?

Actually, I'm afraid to start looking...

Squiggy died, which is probably more important news than all this stuff.

I think that's it.

From the Wisconsin ruling above:

Nonetheless, I feel compelled to share a further observation. Something far more fundamental than the winner of Wisconsin’s electoral votes is implicated in this case. At stake, in some measure, is faith in our system of free and fair elections, a feature central to the enduring strength of our constitutional republic. It can be easy to blithely move on to the next case with a petition so obviously lacking, but this is sobering. The relief being sought by the petitioners is the most dramatic invocation of judicial power I have ever seen. Judicial acquiescence to such entreaties built on so flimsy a foundation would do indelible damage to every future election. Once the door is opened to judicial invalidation of presidential election results, it will be awfully hard to close that door again. This is a dangerous path we are being asked to tread. The loss of public trust in our constitutional order resulting from the exercise of this kind of judicial power would be incalculable.

I do not mean to suggest this court should look the other way no matter what. But if there is a sufficient basis to invalidate an election, it must be established with evidence and arguments commensurate with the scale of the claims and the relief sought. These petitioners have come nowhere close. While the rough and tumble world of electoral politics may be the prism through which many view this litigation, it cannot be so for us. In these hallowed halls, the law must rule.

- Doc

I do not mean to suggest this court should look the other way no matter what. But if there is a sufficient basis to invalidate an election, it must be established with evidence and arguments commensurate with the scale of the claims and the relief sought. These petitioners have come nowhere close. While the rough and tumble world of electoral politics may be the prism through which many view this litigation, it cannot be so for us. In these hallowed halls, the law must rule.

Which is a fancy way of saying Trump's politics are obvious BS, and clearly, his followers need a courtroom to tell them that because they're too damned ignorant and stupid to work it out on their own.

It's also saying the Trump team is so obviously and clearly full of crap, they have no business being in a courtroom unless Trump's the defendant.

Icarus wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:22 am

subgenius wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:13 pm

"Evidence" is also seeing on video someone, absent pollwatchers that were sent away on false pretenses, run ballots multiple times in tabulator:
https://rumble.com/vblln9-corrupt-georg ... -mach.html

Except this has been debunked several times already on this forum, so try to keep up. The video shows nothing nefarious going on except in the minds of the deluded/ignorant. Conservative radio guy Erick Erickson posted this debunking of it: https://Twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1 ... 66144?s=20

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... issed.html

Hell even FOX News debunked it: https://www.Facebook.com/briantylercohe ... &ref=notif

Oh, so deboonked just means some guy said it didn't mean what you saw..and how impressive that now you suddenly hold high regard for Republicans and Conservatives. Shocked i am.
So, if this is all normal, you should have no problem posting lots of other videos showing the same thing occurring during spikes and during untraceable maintenance issues.

It should be noted the ----o sucker is literally parroting 4chan's 'deboonking' memes. tl;didn't wade into /pol/ - they've been using the 'deboonked' angle to shut down anyone who offers actual information regarding their claims.

Remember.

Say something. Never admit being wrong. Say something else. Don't acknowledge. Say more things. Pivot. Mock and move on. And whatever you do don't waste your time reading because that's not the point. I'd recommend very strongly reading Lemmie's link to the Art of Trolling:

...Trolls are usually never initiators of a new semantic trend of communication. Conversely, they normally respond, parasitically, to a fragment of discourse that has been created by someone else.... trolls do not initiate discourse but respond to it for the simple reason that they do not care about any particular semantic focus. They are not interested in what they write about; they are interested in the cognitive, emotional, and pragmatic reactions that they can obtain....

https://www.academia.edu/30952175/2018_ ... al_Effects

I'd suggest 'jenius is actually too dumb to understand what he's doing, but a useful idiot is still an idiot and useful.

- Doc

For reference:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/295 ... oooooooooo

This is just one of dozens of threads mocking the idea you can debunk their claims. Additionally, within any given thread you'll see random mocking 'debunked!' posts with images mocking Liberal or Democrats or whatever.

The 'jenius definitely hangs out on /pol/.

- Doc