Trump is busted for lying again - and what does he do?

[_Jersey Girl]

Like I said, there's video of it that's at least 4 miles away that I've seen on Youtube, thus clearly it's possible.

Like I said, if he was in Trump Tower on 5th, you can't see crap from that location.

Ever been to NYC?

[Guest]

^^Yes Jersey Girl, Trump claimed he saw it from Trump Tower.

Like I said, there's video of it that's at least 4 miles away that I've seen on Youtube, thus clearly it's possible.

Then post the link. Put it up, you put every other YouTube link up, so post that one.



I was much closer to the the WTC that day than Trump, and couldn't see the jumpers. And I thank god that I couldn't.

[_Jersey Girl]

Like I said, there's video of it that's at least 4 miles away that I've seen on Youtube, thus clearly it's possible.

Then post the link.


I was much closer to the the WTC that day than Trump, and couldn't see the jumpers. Thank god.

Miss Tish,

If he were in Trump Tower, do you think he could have seen down the island that far, from say, the penthouse?

I'm saying no.

[Guest]

Like I said, there's video of it that's at least 4 miles away that I've seen on Youtube, thus clearly it's possible.

Once again, please prove your assertion. Please verify the distance in the video with geographic proof. Also verify the location of the videographer, because 4 miles away and on the Jersey side is not the same as 4 miles away in Manhattan.

And please note that 'proof' has a distinct and clear definition in this case. Time stamps, geolocation stamps, etc. For example, audio from YouTube such as 'whoo dude, we must be, like, damned 4 miles away,' does not count as proof.

And stop saying crap like 'thus it's clearly...' until you have provided proof.

[_Jersey Girl]

Telescope? Binoculars? Penthouse?

I'm still saying, no to that.

[_MissTish]

Miss Tish,

If he were in Trump Tower, do you think he could have seen down the island that far, from say, the penthouse?

I'm saying no.

I'm with you on that. No way. He could see the buildings, but there is no way he could see people jumping.

This is a view from the ESB, Trump would have been another 23 blocks north.

[_Jersey Girl]

People on or from the East Coast. Let's think this through.

What do you think the chances are that Donald Trump, having heard that terrorists just dicked away the WTC, is going to be up in the penthouse watching it with binoculars or telescope?

If he didn't have a helipad at the time, my money (which is significantly less that Trump's) says he was making a bee line for Port Authority to get the heck off the island or by car over to Jersey.

Given his propensity for self preservation, I don't see him up there watching it.

[_just me]

People on or from the East Coast. Let's think this through.

What do you think the chances are that Donald Trump, having heard that terrorists just dicked away the WTC, is going to be up in the penthouse watching it with binoculars or telescope?

If he didn't have a helipad at the time, my money (which is significantly less that Trump's) says he was making a bee line for Port Authority to get the heck off the island or by car over to Jersey.

Given his propensity for self preservation, I don't see him up there watching it.

Yeah, he would have gone to a secure location of his and watched the news all day like the rest of America.

[_Some Schmo]

Like I said, there's video of it that's at least 4 miles away that I've seen on Youtube, thus clearly it's possible.

Right, because a camera lens is exactly as powerful as the naked human eye.

[_MissTish]

I'd like to know why he didn't mention any of these things he claimed he saw in the interviews he did in the days immediately following. I believe he saw people jump on TV. That's all.


I have a close friend who works in the World Financial Center, directly across West Street from the WTC. Her office windows gave her an IMAX view of the jumpers and surrounding horrors. 14 years later she is still suffering from PTSD and doesn't talk about it.