Consideration

[Guest]

Edited:

Personal reflection - in real life name - Not worth the possibility that someone and/or someones loved ones might/could be impacted in any way.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[Guest]

Absolutely well said Ceeboo and correct.... Of all the vile people on this board in various degrees, none are more so than Kevin G.

I freely admit I do my condeming, and I hate what I hate and who I hate, but I'm also detailed and concises, deal with the issues (with some thrown in comdemnation here and there). If I personally attack, I'm absolutely clear as to why and show the evidence for it.

Anyway, I'm sure the liberals/anti-mormons here as usual will say bull, but I know what I do and don't do, when and how.
Everything I do is very calculated and informative, and only then can I throw in barbs.

Truthfully, if liberals and anti-mormons were actually fair, honest, respectful, we could have some good discussions.
But, they aren't, so I don't tolerate their donkey poop, I instead expose it and condemn it for what it is, donkey poop. LOL :)

All one has to do is see all the recent posts.... I post videos and information, respond sometimes with more information and clarification, yet almost always all I get in return is personal attacks. Shreech is like the second worst of the forum, he never posts anything of substance (kevin at least try's), in the last 2 days I've made several posts, all the regulars, MissTish, Screech, Lemmie, etc. say nothing but personal attacks.
They don't deal with the substances of the posts or videos I make. Sure, I'm critical of the ideology and those who embrace it, but I clearly show why.
All the liberals do here is just personally attack..... They don't present their "case" and reasoning. They do on "rare" occassion, but doesn't go anywhere cause they just start personally attacking and won't give and take or ackknowledge even basic facts, thus discussion can't go anywhere when people are so willfully blind that basic facts clear and right in front of face cannot be acknowledged.

An example of this is a cop beating a black man..... The liberal claims racism, yet there isn't a single bit of fact or evidence to show that. When you make and show that as clear, and they can't even except that, but instead accept their "belief" as being the facts and truth.... you can't go anywhere with that. Other than the personal attacks..... this is why most conversations on this forum don't go vary far.

[_just me]

Did ldsfaqs srsly just make this thread about him? *boggle*

[_ldsfaqs]

I agreed with the thread, and then I addressed some related information, such as me and the rest of you to explain and address some related to the thread subject matter.

So, your statement would be a misrepresentation. Conversations often address more than one subject matter, having branch related subject matters.
So, you saying "I made the thread about me", is the kind of petty personal attack unnecessary over the top bulldonkey Ceeboo's thread is all about.

[_Kevin Graham]

Out of respect for the loved ones who might be tied to the recent tragedy that is unfolding in California - and because I have class - I have decided to post this here - rather than addressing your preposterous posts directed at me in the other threads.

Yes, because starting a new thread is showing so much respect for those tied to the recent shootings, right? Who do you think you are for crying out loud? No one in San Bernadino gives a flying “F” what you say, let alone whether you say it in a new thread or as in-line response to existing threads. This is just your way of drawing attention to yourself, grandstanding again.

I would be hard pressed to think of anyone that I have engaged , on any discussion board, anywhere, that would be as offensive, abusive, and/or as completely unbalanced as you are.

Riiiiiight. I'm so sure you genuinely believe that, but this is just more BS rhetoric on your part. Again, putting on a show for yourself as if the world gives a crap what someone sporting a pseudonym says or thinks about another complete stranger on the damned internet.

You have a severe lack of sensitivity in dealing with other human beings - especially so when it involves very difficult issues.

No Ceeboo, your problem is that you're too insensitive to the issue at hand. Your inability to understand how hateful rhetoric induces violent behavior is something you should come to grips with one day. Or many you do understand it, but are so outrageously partisan and engaged in identity politics that you can't allow yourself to acknowledge the obvious.

Again, just so we're clear what this is about, when a hate organization willfully spreads lies about Planned Parentood selling "baby parts," and your precious GOP candidates go on TV and repeat those lies about selling "baby parts," and then a month later a Right Wing terrorist murders innocent American civilians while saying "no more baby parts," it really doesn't take a damned genius to connect the dots. You despise me for making the obvious connection and for caring about this issue more than you ever will, by doing what you and your ilk are too cowardly to do, which is to call to the carpet those who instigated this from the start.

In addition, you have no clue what boundaries are - nor do you understand how often you blatantly and grossly cross them - and you cross them by miles!

Yes, of course. Because I call you out for your pretense of taking a moral high ground when in fact you're just grandstanding like so many people I know in these situations. You have no original thought on the matter. No proposed solutions. No meaningful contribution to any discussions on the matter. None. All you do is defend the Right and whine about me being being mean because I upset you with a few hard truths about your preferred position of "do nothing" politics.

In addition, I find your wild accusations - specifically directed at individuals on this board - to be way beyond inappropriate - I find them to be downright cruel!

The only accusation I have made about ajax is that he is a racist and a bigot. Not exactly earth shattering news. Posters who have any familiarity with his posting habits already know this to be true.

For you to assign blame to individual human beings for things as horrific as cold-blooded murder is not just irresponsible - it's way worse. It's revolting! It's despicable! It's repulsive!

I never "assigned blame" to him for murder. There is nothing inappropriate about pointing out similarities between Right Wing terrorists and unhinged Right Wingers ranting on political forums. They're generally anti-government, they hate immigrants/minorities, are fanatical defenders of gun rights, and uncritically accept anything they read from Breitbart.

In addition, you have no self-control.

I have plenty of self control, I just see no reason why I need to walk on egg shells so you don't get upset with the truth. No need for me to be complicit with the BS excuses we've been telling ourselves every time these tragedies happen. You know, like your preferred "Oh it was just the fault of the shooter, no one else's, nothing we can do, just pray and move on" tripe that echos the NRA-scripted, FOX News denial.

Self control? Ha. Yes, aren't you the one who said you were going to let me have the last word yesterday and then starting up with your BS today, and now again with a new soap box thread? Self control indeed.

You are unable to express yourself in a respectful manner.

Sure I am, but only to those who deserve it. You're the one who came at me yesterday and now today. I don't remember ever having any issues with you until then. (unless you're the same idiot who said I was far more partisan and biased than anyone on this forum - can't remember if that was you or not)

If you want to engage the issues then do so, but if you want to whine and do nothing but call me names, well you can do that too. Just understand that I'll continue to give exactly zero "F"s about what you say or think about me.

[_ldsfaqs]

What is sad is Ceeboo is like the nicest and non-confrontational and doesn't get into the issues person on this forum, yet here we have Kevin G. ripping him a new one, as if he's so "terrible".

You really don't know what you've become Kevin G. when you became liberal and anti-mormon.
Reading all those liberal propaganda websites (MediaMatters, Huffpo, Mother Goose, whatever, studying almost nothing else) have rotted your brain Kevin.
You see bigotry and racism where there is none.... You attribute great evils to people and things where there is none.

Me, Ajax or otherwise aren't "racist" Kevin G. Such an idea and thinking comes from liberal lying brainwashing, not who people actually are.

[_Kevin Graham]

What is sad is Ceeboo is like the nicest and non-confrontational...

Uh, obviously not. Again, Ceeboo initiated hostilities with me, not the other way around. I don't take kindly to people pretending to be all holier than thou just because they refuse to state the obvious truths that undermine their political positions.

If you don't like that I call out the obvious then refute it. Don't bitch about the fact that I said it because that just makes you look stupid and hyper-partisan. There should be no doubt, to any reasonable person with half a brain, that the Colorado Springs shooter was acting on rage that was triggered by that stupid anti-Planned Parentood organization. That's all I said, and instead of proving me wrong, started passing judgment on me for being all sorts of adjectives that aren't complimentary.

Non-confrontational?

[_Ceeboo]

Kevin,

I don't have much more to say - I said most of what I wanted to say in my OP - I firmly stand by the OP - Even though I do have some regret that I wrote it.

So, I will not be responding to your posts in this thread, specifically.

In the 10+ years that I have participated on these discussion boards, I don't recall ever writing an OP like this one. Ever.

I received no joy is writing it - I wrote it because I felt that I needed to respond to your numerous tirades - especially the tirades in which you felt the need to specifically point at me.

In addition to your bizarre rants in general, I find your numerous posts that project my personal political views to be among the most bizarre. Although it is clear that you severely lack things like self-control, respect, boundary maintenance, staying in your lane, judgement, and balance - you clearly do have a wild imagination.

Again, I want you to know that I received no pleasure in writing this OP - And I hope that it will be a very long time before I feel that I need to write one like this again.

Sincerely,
Ceeboo

[_Jersey Girl]

Out of respect for the loved ones who might be tied to the recent tragedy that is unfolding in California - and because I have class - I have decided to post this here - rather than addressing your preposterous posts directed at me in the other threads.

Yes, because starting a new thread is showing so much respect for those tied to the recent shootings, right? Who do you think you are for crying out loud? No one in San Bernadino gives a flying f*** what you say, let alone whether you say it in a new thread or as in-line response to existing threads. This is just your way of drawing attention to yourself, grandstanding again.

Kevin, do you think it's possible that any of our board members might be tied to the CA shootings in some way in terms of having family in the area or whatever, and if so, do you allow for the possibility that Ceeboo simply wanted to tell you off one:one outside of the existing thread to avoid disrupting the thoughts and emotions of posters or lurkers here who might be going through a tough/tense time on account of the CA shootings?

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Jersey Girl!

Kevin, do you think it's possible that any of our board members might be tied to the CA shootings in some way in terms of having family in the area or whatever, and if so, do you allow for the possibility that Ceeboo simply wanted to tell you off one:one outside of the existing thread to avoid disrupting the thoughts and emotions of posters or lurkers here who might be going through a tough/tense time on account of the CA shootings?

Yes - without question, this is one of the reasons that I decided to address Kevin in a separate thread.

In addition, I did not want to engage Kevin in the middle of much more serious conversations that were taking place on a very real time line. I am convinced that Kevin has no concept of appropriate timing or when it is - or is not - proper to make his political points. Clearly, there is a time for politics.
But when tremendous amounts of gunfire is ringing through the streets of neighborhoods - filled with innocent people that are horrified - and numerous dead bodies are laying in blood that is still warm - this is not the time for politics! Not the time!

And, my decision to address Kevin outside of these other serious threads was not just for those who may be tied to this particular awful tragedy, it was out of respect for all people, everywhere, who have been impacted by these types of horrific experiences.

Anyway, I am fairly certain that Kevin will have no concept of what I am talking about and/or why I feel it was necessary that I reply to him in a separate thread. Just another one of his blind spots - on a long list of blind spots.

Peace,
Ceeboo